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#46141 - 04/03/03 08:48 PM 5 second sound drop-out after layer change in DTS-ES...
nohjy Offline
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Registered: 03/08/03
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I am hoping someone can tell me how to address this. I am getting an approximately 5 second audio drop-out immediately following the layer change when watching a movie in DTS-ES. At this point, the 950 seems to cycle through the DTS decoding formats and after 3-5 seconds it will lock on DTS-ES. This also happens when forwarding through chapters. Is there anyway around this? I keep missing dialog just after the layer change in the movie I am watching. It is strange that the 950 wouldn't just stay in DTS-ES mode instead of having to again read and recognize the DTS-ES flags. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

John

[This message has been edited by nohjy (edited April 03, 2003).]

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#46142 - 04/03/03 09:38 PM Re: 5 second sound drop-out after layer change in DTS-ES...
jgubman Offline
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Registered: 12/24/02
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Loc: San Mateo, CA
My old Sony pre/pro did that too. It got to be annoying enough for me to buy a Denon DVD player (I bought the 3800). Denon's players all have a 4-16mb buffered playback, I rarely notice a layer-change anymore.

Other than buying a dvd-player w/ a buffer (not sure if any other than the denon rigs have it), I believe the 950's manual addresses this audio drop. Something about not auto-decoding the signal but "locking" in a certain sound format? Sounds mildly annoying to me...

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#46143 - 04/03/03 10:34 PM Re: 5 second sound drop-out after layer change in DTS-ES...
Kevin C Brown Offline
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I've a watched a couple DTS-ES movies, and haven't noticed this. You could try switching between optical and coax, or try a different input on the 950. Might also be your player too.
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#46144 - 04/03/03 10:34 PM Re: 5 second sound drop-out after layer change in DTS-ES...
nohjy Offline
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Registered: 03/08/03
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Loc: Lehigh Valley, PA
I tried changing auto detection to dts and didn't help. It still first recognizes the signal as DTS and then recognizes the dts-es flag and then the sound kicks in. Is there any way to lock it on dts-es?

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#46145 - 04/03/03 11:41 PM Re: 5 second sound drop-out after layer change in DTS-ES...
nohjy Offline
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Registered: 03/08/03
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Loc: Lehigh Valley, PA
I have determined the drop out is 3 seconds long and it does it not only at layer changes, but whenever using chapter forward only on DTS-ES titles.

Can someone try this for me:

play a dts-es title and try using the chapter forward on your dvd player. After the dvd gets to the next chapter how long does it take for your audio to lock in? I can't believe this is the DVD player (its practically brand new and its connected via toslink). Thank you in advance.

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#46146 - 04/04/03 12:22 PM Re: 5 second sound drop-out after layer change in DTS-ES...
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
I've got to go meet a plumber at the house, so I'll try to get a minute to check this out. It's not something I've noticed with either Panasonic player that I've used with my 950 (DVD-A310 and DVD-RA60). Granted, I don't have that many DTS-ES discs, but I did some of my early testing of the 950 with my A310 and Gladiator...

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#46147 - 04/04/03 01:25 PM Re: 5 second sound drop-out after layer change in DTS-ES...
Smart Little Lena Offline
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Registered: 01/09/02
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Loc: Dallas
play a dts-es title and try using the chapter forward on your dvd player.

Nohjy……Just popped in GLADIATOR, did not have time to mess with awaiting layer changes. But chap. skipped.
The 950 LCD will display DTS, then flip to the DTS-ES flag, although there is slight and acceptable delay, acquisition of sound occurs while the 2nd line of the 950’s LCD screen is still displaying: “Input: DSCS 6.1” and before this readout returns to dB display default.

Panasonic RP91.

Gonk...question, My second 950 is running with a Pioneer DVD multi-tray player I can check, - but its currently 5.0. If I 'tell' the 950 I've got 6/7 speakers running this should be a valid test to ck another DVD players aquisition time...I would think so, it should put the output active and enable the decoder, -wheter there's a speaker to recieve or not. ..Will do it later.


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#46148 - 04/04/03 05:03 PM Re: 5 second sound drop-out after layer change in DTS-ES...
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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I was a bit pressed for time so I didn't have a chance to compare this to the acquisition time for a regular DTS, Dolby Digital, or Dolby EX track, but I was seeing about a 2 second acquisition time when skipping between chapters on Fellowship of the Ring: Extended Edition in DTS-ES. The layer change on disc 1 is at 47:15 according to Digital Bits, so if I get a chance I'll see how my player handles the layer change this weekend.

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#46149 - 04/04/03 07:14 PM Re: 5 second sound drop-out after layer change in DTS-ES...
jgubman Offline
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Registered: 12/24/02
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Loc: San Mateo, CA
Just tested Gladiator on my Denon 3800 and didn't notice the layer change.

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#46150 - 04/06/03 06:14 PM Re: 5 second sound drop-out after layer change in DTS-ES...
Kevin C Brown Offline
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Registered: 12/11/01
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Loc: Santa Clara, CA
I watched a "normal" DTS movie last night. I can spot the layer change (there is a < 1 sec delay on the 47ai), but the 950 did not lose the signal lock. I was watching with the CES-C DTS mode. FWIW...
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