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#39652 - 09/17/02 02:15 AM Re: new 950s have low gain?
thessick Offline
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Registered: 06/17/01
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The importance of output voltage on the preamp depends on the sensitivity of your amplifier. For example, my Acurus is rated for full output at 1.1 volts. So if the 950 really is at .707V it is an issue.
What are the old specs vs the new?

Tom

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#39653 - 09/17/02 02:28 AM Re: new 950s have low gain?
thessick Offline
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Registered: 06/17/01
Posts: 13
Loc: Tucson,AZ,USA
Both the old manual and the new spec the output at 1.5V. However, the on line spec sheet from 3/1 shows 1.0V.

Is that the fix?

Can someone please clarify?

Thanks
Tom

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#39654 - 09/17/02 02:40 AM Re: new 950s have low gain?
Will Offline
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Registered: 05/28/02
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accidental post

[This message has been edited by Will (edited September 17, 2002).]

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#39655 - 09/17/02 10:19 AM Re: new 950s have low gain?
steve1173 Offline
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Registered: 04/29/02
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Loc: punta gorda, florida, usa
I have a Cinepro 2k5ll amp connected to a Parasound AV2500, I was getting hiss so Cinepro had me open the top & move a switch for each channel which reduced the input, maybe what Outlaw did with the preamp just reduce output to lower hiss.

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#39656 - 09/17/02 12:30 PM Re: new 950s have low gain?
soundhound Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by thessick:
Both the old manual and the new spec the output at 1.5V. However, the on line spec sheet from 3/1 shows 1.0V.


Note that in the manual, it also says that the _maximum_ output is 6.3 volts. THAT is the important spec, not the 'rated' output which is pretty much meaningless as far as driving a power amp. This means that, given enough INPUT voltage (pretty easy as equipment is pretty standardized), the output of the Outlaw will go all the way to 6.3 volts, MORE than enough to drive your power amp into clipping. Relax......

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#39657 - 09/17/02 12:35 PM Re: new 950s have low gain?
applejelly Offline
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Registered: 12/20/01
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Loc: Syracuse, NY
I guess the 6.3V is a max under the best conditions. The specs, such as S/N, THD, etc, must have been measured when the output voltage was set to 1.5V into a 100kohm load. Thus, like most other specs, they are just specs - no way of knowing what they are under other conditions, but it probably doesn't matter much anyway.

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#39658 - 09/17/02 04:36 PM Re: new 950s have low gain?
soundhound Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by applejelly:
... like most other specs, they are just specs - no way of knowing what they are under other conditions, but it probably doesn't matter much anyway.


Exactly, that is why I try to advise people to just ignore the 'specs' and put much more weight on how it works and sounds in THEIR system. Specs can be manupulated just like statictics...and we all know where THAT leads.

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