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#39563 - 07/18/02 04:26 PM Re: Outlaw VS Rotel impressions
surroundophile Offline
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Registered: 05/02/02
Posts: 68
Loc: Chicago, Il. USA
Merc:
The concert may have had 2 speakers in the front for amplification/reinforcement , but the sound from those 2 speakers bouncing off the side and rear walls provided the "rear surround channels" ambience. There's no way you could have heard the concert in 2CH, unless you had sound absorbing material 2/3's surrounding your head! Even then, it really would have been 3CH (LCR).

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#39564 - 07/18/02 06:22 PM Re: Outlaw VS Rotel impressions
merc Offline
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Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 369
Loc: Deep in the Woodlands of Texas
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The concert may have had 2 speakers in the front for amplification/reinforcement , but the sound from those 2 speakers bouncing off the side and rear walls provided the "rear surround channels" ambience. There's no way you could have heard the concert in 2CH, unless you had sound absorbing material 2/3's surrounding your head! Even then, it really would have been 3CH (LCR).
Sorry, but there are no rear or side walls at all. The roof is some sort of suspended tarpaulin material.
Here is an actual image of the Pavilion:
If we assume that the instruments can be also heard directly and that sonic reflections also bounce from those instruments off the back stage wall, then I'll allow for a type of bi-polar speaker type reflections or possibly 3 front channels??? Nah. It sounds like plain jane stereo to me.
Hope this picture clears up your confusion.

Now, if the concert was in the Compaq Center, then I'd say that with wall reflections making every note a distorted mess, it IS more like a bad surround mix. IMO, there is nothing more artificial sounding than a multichannel mix where instruments start to play behind you.

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I guess from anywhere beyond those uncovered seats, the effect would be pretty monaurial anyway.
Matthew: in fact each one of the poles halfway up the lawn have speakers on them and they broadcast a mono signal. However, they are pointing up the hill, not back into the seating area.

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#39565 - 07/18/02 08:06 PM Re: Outlaw VS Rotel impressions
John C Offline
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Registered: 12/24/01
Posts: 50
Loc: Cheyenne, WY
Merc, live in the Woodlands? I used to live there until '98. Now in Wyoming.

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#39566 - 07/18/02 09:41 PM Re: Outlaw VS Rotel impressions
morphsci Offline
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Registered: 02/15/02
Posts: 243
Loc: Charleston, IL, USA
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Originally posted by Townhouse:
By the way, the only reason I waste my time posting here is to try to help the neophytes recognize hype, myth, and nonsense. ...


And we all appreciate your willingness to
to serve as a prime example. thanks.

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#39567 - 07/18/02 11:38 PM Re: Outlaw VS Rotel impressions
merc Offline
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Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 369
Loc: Deep in the Woodlands of Texas
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Merc, live in the Woodlands? I used to live there until '98. Now in Wyoming.
John: Yup. We've been here for almost 8 years after moving from Sugarland. You wouldn't recognize The Woodlands now. In just the last 5 years the population has doubled.
We are Partners at the Pavilion so we get to go to all the concerts for free. Last night, Gwyneth Paltrow gave my 7 year old son a can of coke from the green room buffet table... while I was in the potty. I didn't believe him till later when she appeared on stage as a backup vocal for Sheryl Crow. Dang... timing is everything.
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#39568 - 07/19/02 10:01 PM Re: Outlaw VS Rotel impressions
John C Offline
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Registered: 12/24/01
Posts: 50
Loc: Cheyenne, WY
I bet I wouldnt recognize it! Cheyenne,WY, where I live now, is the capitol city of WY. It has around 50000 people. Of course, the entire state of WY only has 493,000 peeps.
I like it, plus only 2hrs from Denver if I crave a big city. And I sure dont miss the humidity! Humid here is 17%.

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#39569 - 08/21/02 09:54 PM Re: Outlaw VS Rotel impressions
Jmac Offline
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Registered: 02/02/02
Posts: 18
Loc: okalhoma city oklahoma
Just posting here to say sorry Outlaws I just couldn't wait any longer. While on vacation in Denver Co. I picked up a black Rotel 1066 (1300.00). I don't know what the 950 sounds like but this processor sounds and looks great. The dealer had plenty of them in both black and silver.

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#39570 - 08/23/02 11:41 AM Re: Outlaw VS Rotel impressions
DMC Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 05/07/02
Posts: 78
Loc: Mullica Hill, NJ
Sorry to see ya go. I think there are other Outlaws out there that may go down your path.
DmC

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#39571 - 08/26/02 09:48 PM Re: Outlaw VS Rotel impressions
Will Offline
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Registered: 05/28/02
Posts: 605
Loc: LA's The Place
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picked up a black Rotel 1066 (1300.00). I don't know what the 950 sounds like but this processor sounds and looks great. The dealer had plenty of them in both black and silver.

The 1066 was hard to get, especially at a discount, but not anymore.

Rotel probably ramped up production.

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#39572 - 08/28/02 12:53 PM Re: Outlaw VS Rotel impressions
Matthew Hill Offline
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Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 1434
Loc: Mount Laurel, NJ
Hope you enjoy it. Any chance of posting your impressions here?

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