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#39508 - 08/28/02 11:47 PM falling off the wait wagon
911millertourguide Offline
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Registered: 07/12/02
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Loc: chicago,il usa
Just purchased a Harman kardon AVR320 to use as a preamp 7.1-Channel Audio/Video Receiver With Dolby® Digital, DTS®, Logic 7® and VMAx® Decoding. The AVR 320 is Harman Kardon's first affordable A/V receiver to feature breakthrough 7.1-channel surround-sound processing, which is available with several surround modes, including two modes of our exclusive Logic 7 decoding. The AVR 320 is also loaded with advanced features found only in premium-priced receivers, including DTS-ES 6.1 surround sound; 8-channel direct inputs; wideband, HDTV-ready component video switching; 7.1 preamp outputs; 6 digital inputs and 3 digital outputs; a front-panel digital input that can be switched to output mode; 192kHz/24-bit D/A converters, and Harman Kardon's patented EzSet remote control. for much less than the 950......could not wait any longer, we'll see how this works out and when and what Outlaws will ship

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#39509 - 08/29/02 02:40 AM Re: falling off the wait wagon
MixFixJ Offline
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Registered: 05/10/02
Posts: 156
Loc: Vista, CA USA
I've had an Aragon Soundstage in my rack for about 4 hours. It's nothing short of phenominal! The preamp is based on the Aragon Aurum Class A pre. Absolutely stellar sound. There's an upgrade to all new formats due anytime. The formats on board now sound incrdible. I couldn't be more satisfied.
I purchased it at Ubid for 1700.00. It's a model year 2001. With an MSRP of 4000.00, and a 2 year warrantee, I couldn't pass it up. I also couldn't wait on Outlaw any longer.
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#39510 - 08/29/02 05:04 AM Re: falling off the wait wagon
Kevin C Brown Offline
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Registered: 12/11/01
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Loc: Santa Clara, CA
9mtg: Shoulda waited for the 525 or at least the 325.

The 320 only has Logic 7 for 2 channel sources, and no DD EX.


Mix: I'm jealous! But I'm still a waitin' on the Outlaws...

Or a Denon 3803...

Or an H/K 525...

Or that new Pioneer 45 might be OK...

Or if the new Integra 7.3, if you can apply different crossovers to different speaker(s) (sets)...
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#39511 - 08/29/02 09:27 AM Re: falling off the wait wagon
MixFixJ Offline
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Registered: 05/10/02
Posts: 156
Loc: Vista, CA USA
Kevin,
I saw your name in the Klipsch forum, so I know you were sniffing around! You owe it to yourself to listen to the Aragon gear. Awesome!

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#39512 - 08/29/02 01:33 PM Re: falling off the wait wagon
911millertourguide Offline
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Registered: 07/12/02
Posts: 11
Loc: chicago,il usa
WOW....Donn't u lv it when someone critizes U, and cann't get the facts straight!!!!!!!!!!!. The Harman AVR 320, has logic 7 for both 5.1 and 7.1, also handles dd es, and dts neo. Please get your facts straight, before dissing someone>>> and donn't shoot from the hip like most Outlaws>>>>>>Brown that's UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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#39513 - 08/29/02 01:54 PM Re: falling off the wait wagon
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Easy there, fella. I don't think Kevin was criticizing or speaking ill of your new receiver. Deep breath, and go easy on the keyboard. From a look at the manual (there's a list of processing modes on page 26), it would appear that Kevin is right -- the 320 does not include Dolby Digital EX, and the Logic 7 processing can be applied to any stereo source (TV, VCR, CD, or two-channel audio from a DVD), but can't be used to produce surround back information from a 5.1 source. The manual is a little fuzzy on the second point, but that's the way it reads to me.

With that, I'm grabbing a sandwich and heading for east Tennessee...

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#39514 - 08/29/02 04:04 PM Re: falling off the wait wagon
Matthew Hill Offline
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Registered: 11/29/01
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Loc: Mount Laurel, NJ
Ever notice how MTC tends to repeat letters and angle brackets when he gets upset? smile

Gonk: have fun in Tennessee.

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#39515 - 08/29/02 04:10 PM Re: falling off the wait wagon
Kevin C Brown Offline
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Loc: Santa Clara, CA
Thanks Gonk. Great review of the new 950 on the other thread btw!
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#39516 - 08/29/02 09:24 PM Re: falling off the wait wagon
911millertourguide Offline
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Registered: 07/12/02
Posts: 11
Loc: chicago,il usa
Ignorance is a lack of knowledge, or the inability to get it.
Logic 7 is a Patented process with either 5.1 or 7.1, discrete channels obtained from the PCM code of the DVD codec, Harman International now has the patents based upon its purchase of Lexicon. The Logic 7 is not obtained for DD. It has been available on earlier models, as an example the AVR210 which had Logic 7 for 5.1 channels. It seems to me all Knowledge does not flow from Gonk or Kevin Brown, but also is Disseminated elsewhere....just my humble opinion

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#39517 - 08/29/02 10:20 PM Re: falling off the wait wagon
Audioholic Offline
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Registered: 07/11/01
Posts: 69
Loc: MI
Oooooh! First a post from 911MTC that reads like ad copy, then a "you hurt my feelings post", and then a "you're a bunch of ignoramuses" post. What a guy! Kicked any midgets lately?

MixFixJ ..... Good choice with the Soundstage. I've got one myself matched up with Aragon amps and it really is a nice unit. I did try out an Outlaw 950 but the noise floor was a bit high and not having separate settings (sub, etc.) for analog listening kept me from keeping it. Other than that, the 950 is a great piece of equipment, especially at its price point. You should try out the Outlaw cables if you haven't already, I've bought several sets and they're comparable in quality to StraightWire or other well-made cables.
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