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#33665 - 06/06/05 11:45 PM Re: Buying 3 200M
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Bugbitten,

To your question on deciding factor.....
-On buying AMPS; I am definitely not an audio expert...still lots to learn, but I know that some power will improve the sound of my Polks. Gary mentions that above and he has the same speakers; heard this same thing from him and others in the Polk forum. Will sound better at lower volumes and will get me higher volumes with no/less distortion. Anyway there are experts that can talk better about this.
-On the Outlaws vs. other brands: also in the Polk forum these amps are popular, and the price is more affordable than other brands...

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#33666 - 06/07/05 07:12 AM Re: Buying 3 200M
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I've been preparing everything for the installation and decided to go with the 12v trigger out to start with; reading the manual of my Denon 3803, got to another question; settings for trigger out are on/off for the different input sources (DVD, CD, etc); What does this mean? That whenever I select any of the input sources that have an "on" setting this will make the 12V output flow? ..Just checking...

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#33667 - 06/07/05 07:38 AM Re: Buying 3 200M
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You've got it - set the trigger to "on"
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#33668 - 06/07/05 01:02 PM Re: Buying 3 200M
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I bought in. 2 monos ordered today. I'll give them the old in home test.
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#33669 - 06/07/05 01:04 PM Re: Buying 3 200M
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Congrats Bugbitten...I think we will all want to hear your experience with those high eff. speakers...

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#33670 - 06/07/05 03:17 PM Re: Buying 3 200M
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In also asked Outlaw about whether or not surge protection was needed on the M200's and this is the response I rec'd from Steve:

I always recommend surge suppressors or line conditioning. The following is an exerpt from the M200 manual regarding warranty:
"This warranty covers all defects in material and workmanship with the following specific exceptions. These are:
• Damage caused by improper installation or adjustment • Damage caused by connection to AC power outside of the specified range • Damage caused by accident, unreasonable use or neglect • Damage from failure to follow instructions contained in this Owner’s Manual • Damage from the performance of repairs by someone not authorized by Outlaw Audio • Any unit on which the serial number has been effaced, modified, or removed • Damage occurring during shipment (Consult the carrier for claims due to shipping damage) • Units which have been altered or modified in design, appearance or construction"
That said it's important to protect against an overvoltage condition like a surge. You may read that it's OK to plug the amp into the wall, and it is, however a surge protector will probably react faster than the "slow-blow" type of fuse that's used in amps. Additionally a surge protector will help to prevent catastrophic failure from a surge better than a slow-blow fuse with the unit.
We are very good regarding warranty coverage, and I'm sure we've even repaired units that were technically not covered under the terms of our warranty. We never like to refuse warranty repair, however if a unit is obviously damaged and is not a defect we do reserve the right to determine that it is a non warranty repair. In a sense, a catastrophic surge is an accident much like a liquid entering the chassis and is not a defect in parts or workmanship.
I've heard that the Brick Wall line of surge protectors do a great job at protecting equipment and do not limit current. Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Thanks and Regards,

Steve

I did purchase a couple of the Brick Wall surge protectors and have been quite happy.

With regard to your question about power requirements for the M200's. I have six M200's on one circuit with a preamp and four M200's on another circuit with two 500 watt subwoofers. With the music turned up VERY loud I pull around 16-17 amps on one circuit and about 15-16 amps on the other circuit (this is louder than one can comfortably listen to). So one 20 amp is plenty for three M200's.

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#33671 - 06/07/05 03:40 PM Re: Buying 3 200M
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Thanks for the input; from all I've heard here I will:

-Protect the Amps.
-put the three in a dedicated 15 A circuit.

BTW...do they come with the trigger cables? If not, what/where do I neet to buy?

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#33672 - 06/07/05 11:37 PM Re: Buying 3 200M
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Registered: 10/25/02
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Loc: IL
I have 3 of these w/two 250 watt subs in the towers, TV and the rest of the HT equip along with some lights on a 15a circuit and never threw it. Maybe I just don't turn it up incredibly loud? Oh well, dedicated line sure wouldn't hurt. Oh, I do have a surge protector, but I also needed it for the number of outlets. Never popped that thing either.

The amps do not come with trigger cables. I picked some up from partsexpress.

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#33673 - 06/08/05 10:06 AM Re: Buying 3 200M
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#33674 - 06/08/05 10:27 AM Re: Buying 3 200M
Roland Offline
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Registered: 06/04/04
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Loc: Lanesville, IN USA
HTRookie:
According to Steve at outlaw the trigger cables need to be mono, not stereo. He indicated that the stereo plugs can line up but will not do so consistently. I bought mono plugs at ratshack and made my own.

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