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#32564 - 11/08/02 06:48 PM Model 200
hydro Offline
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Loc: Post Falls, ID USA
The suspense is killing me!!

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#32565 - 11/08/02 10:29 PM Re: Model 200
Smart Little Lena Offline
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Loc: Dallas
What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it?

I was worried about Clark. You okay out there JT?

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#32566 - 11/09/02 09:53 AM Re: Model 200
JT Clark Offline
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Loc: IL
WHAT IS IT ALREADY!!!!!

I tried doing huge letters, but the site does not allow for multiple spaces. Oh well.


[This message has been edited by JT Clark (edited November 09, 2002).]

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#32567 - 11/09/02 12:52 PM Re: Model 200
JT Clark Offline
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Loc: IL
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#32568 - 11/09/02 01:00 PM Re: Model 200
JT Clark Offline
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Registered: 10/25/02
Posts: 466
Loc: IL
Eh, close enough. Where is the newsletter?

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#32569 - 11/09/02 01:31 PM Re: Model 200
JeffreyMercado Offline
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Registered: 10/31/01
Posts: 202
Loc: Queens Village
If you noticed Scotts update it showed a date until November 10. So most likely we will here something on Monday. All of us are in great expectation of Outlaws new product. I keep my mind busy by thinking of Attack of The Clones and Lord of The Rings coming out this tuesday.

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#32570 - 11/09/02 05:07 PM Re: Model 200
JT Clark Offline
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Loc: IL
Update? Where is the update?

I can't wait for Lord of the Rings either. I'm going to pass on Attack of the Clones though, I was disappointed with that show. The story was very good, with what was revealed, but it was carried out rather poorly. I'll probably still get the three set after the third one comes out.

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#32571 - 11/11/02 10:05 AM Re: Model 200
JT Clark Offline
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Loc: IL
I'm going to go nuts waiting.

What do you guys think of the humorous responses? I like the shock collar one. Where you get zapped if you think you hear a hiss.

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#32572 - 11/11/02 10:28 AM Re: Model 200
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Heh -- there were some good hiss-related ones. (Although it's hard to top JasonA's idea , particularly as far as effort goes...)

I thought about all the hiss debate and the "ear to the tweeter" tests early in the hiss saga last Thursday morning while checking out an air conditioning system in a chapel in east Tennessee -- laying on the marble floor with my ear to the supply air grille. Maybe I should have checked the back of the air handling unit to see if it had a red dot on it...

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#32573 - 11/11/02 10:36 AM Re: Model 200
hydro Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
Posts: 35
Loc: Post Falls, ID USA
I hadn't seen that post! That is great, nice artwork too. Where do I order?

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#32574 - 11/11/02 11:47 AM Re: Model 200
JT Clark Offline
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Registered: 10/25/02
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Loc: IL
That is pretty good.

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#32575 - 11/11/02 11:57 AM Re: Model 200
hydro Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
Posts: 35
Loc: Post Falls, ID USA
Hey Gonk are you a tech?

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#32576 - 11/11/02 12:16 PM Re: Model 200
Smart Little Lena Offline
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Registered: 01/09/02
Posts: 1019
Loc: Dallas
4-g solid platinum headphone cord!!!!!

They don’t really have 4-g platinum wire do they??? You know how much platinum weighs/cost (plus its more brittle than gold)!

I missed clicking into the ‘details’ of that post. Very impressive and not least for the fact he CAN Draw and Write (I can read the handwriting!!!)

Good job Jason a definite finalist in my book!.

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#32577 - 11/11/02 02:23 PM Re: Model 200
JasonA Offline
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Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 84
Loc: Marion, Iowa
C'mon Outlaws, what IS it? I'm guessing it's something semi-major, worthy of a month-long contest. I wonder if anyone got it right? There were a lot of good guesses. I honestly don't have any idea what it IS, although there are several things I think it COULD be.

I'm glad someone else got a kick out of my guess. As Matthew Hill mentioned in the original post, I had a bit too much spare time on my hands - hey, it was a slow day at work.

Jason

(BTW - my favorite gag in the guess is in the copyright...)

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#32578 - 11/11/02 02:37 PM Re: Model 200
JT Clark Offline
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I don't really remember seeing it before. Maybe I was just confused as to what you were saying for some reason. With the illustrations, though, it's very good.

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#32579 - 11/11/02 03:27 PM Re: Model 200
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Yeah, I enjoyed the heck out of your guess, JasonA. Hopefully we'll have the official answer soon enough...

Quote:
Originally posted by hydro:
Hey Gonk are you a tech?


I'm an engineer. It was a punch list trip, but the job is sufficiently "sound sensitive" that they hired an acoustical consultant (even though we did the design for a smaller chapel on the same campus that is one of the quietest HVAC systems I've ever heard), so I had to take some time to help hunt for the source or some faint fan noise.

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#32580 - 11/12/02 05:16 PM Re: Model 200
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Registered: 07/03/01
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Any update yet? (Haven't ordered anything, so I'm still not on the mailing list)

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#32581 - 11/12/02 08:55 PM Re: Model 200
desperado Offline
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Registered: 09/06/02
Posts: 213
Loc: Hawaii
Quote:
Originally posted by JHoff80:
Any update yet? (Haven't ordered anything, so I'm still not on the mailing list)


No update yet. I don't think you need to buy to get on the mail list. Until you mentioned it I didn't realize there was no way to simply register to be on the mail list. However if you select "Contact Us" at the bottom of this page and then click "Online contact form (fastest!)" the page you are brought to let's select to be added to the mail list.

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#32582 - 11/13/02 09:00 AM Re: Model 200
desperado Offline
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Registered: 09/06/02
Posts: 213
Loc: Hawaii
Can I change my guess to Vaporware ?

Waiting for this newletter is like checking the mailbox every day when you were a kid waiting for your mailorder package to arrive.
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#32583 - 11/13/02 10:26 AM Re: Model 200
Matthew Hill Offline
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Registered: 11/29/01
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Loc: Mount Laurel, NJ
Vaporware... hmm, now there's a new concept for the Outlaws, eh?

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#32584 - 11/13/02 12:19 PM Re: Model 200
Scott Offline
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We know we're late with the Newsletter, but we ask for your patience as it will contain more than just the announcement regarding the Model 200. That said, it will be here by the end of this weekend.

Thanks,

Scott

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#32585 - 11/13/02 01:05 PM Re: Model 200
JasonA Offline
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Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 84
Loc: Marion, Iowa
Quote:
Originally posted by Scott:
We know we're late with the Newsletter, but we ask for your patience as it will contain more than just the announcement regarding the Model 200. That said, it will be here by the end of this weekend.


Soooooo, we shouldn't expect anything until Sunday night at 11:59 pm

I have to admit that I'm way more anxious to find out what this is than I should be.

Jason

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#32586 - 11/13/02 01:11 PM Re: Model 200
desperado Offline
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Registered: 09/06/02
Posts: 213
Loc: Hawaii
Sorry Scott I don't mean to be impatient. But you have to admit the contest is working. People want to know I agree with Jason I am way more interested in what this thing is than I should be. At least now I can stop checking until the weekend.
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#32587 - 11/13/02 01:19 PM Re: Model 200
JT Clark Offline
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Registered: 10/25/02
Posts: 466
Loc: IL
With a time frame now, I'll be fine, as should pretty much everyone else. Thanks for telling us Scott.

I still might make a few comments (others too I imagine), but nothing we say will really mean much. We're just having fun.

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#32588 - 11/18/02 08:35 AM Re: Model 200
JT Clark Offline
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Registered: 10/25/02
Posts: 466
Loc: IL
Has anyone gotten a newsletter yet?

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#32589 - 11/18/02 10:19 AM Re: Model 200
hydro Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
Posts: 35
Loc: Post Falls, ID USA
Nothing yet!

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#32590 - 11/18/02 11:09 AM Re: Model 200
DollarBill Offline
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Registered: 06/17/02
Posts: 180
Loc: Durham, CT
We got hit with a Nor'easter here in New England this weekend that caused alot of power outages. If the newsletter is coming out of New Hampshire, then we may have to wait another day. Just giving them the benfit of the doubt.

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#32591 - 11/18/02 01:22 PM Re: Model 200
Smart Little Lena Offline
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Registered: 01/09/02
Posts: 1019
Loc: Dallas
I saw that this AM -CNN. I believe the blurb was iced tree limbs snaping off like 'gunshots' everywhere. Hope your property's okay!

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#32592 - 11/18/02 01:55 PM Re: Model 200
DollarBill Offline
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Registered: 06/17/02
Posts: 180
Loc: Durham, CT
Thanks, Mary. Everything is fine. We were on the "warm & rainy" side of the storm.

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#32593 - 11/18/02 03:10 PM Re: Model 200
JasonA Offline
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Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 84
Loc: Marion, Iowa
I'm not having a very productive day here at work. Every 10 minutes I check in here to see if anything has been posted.

Scott, should we plan on not expecting anything for a few more days? My boss would probably appreciate me knowing so I can quit checking all the time

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#32594 - 11/18/02 03:46 PM Re: Model 200
JT Clark Offline
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Registered: 10/25/02
Posts: 466
Loc: IL
I'm doing the same thing here

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#32595 - 11/18/02 04:40 PM Re: Model 200
Matthew Hill Offline
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Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 1434
Loc: Mount Laurel, NJ
I still think it's vaporware. An actual product, but vaporware. It's a new downloadable software patch for the 950 that will activate the aromatic hardware already in the unit; giving a new 3S (three senses) audio/visual/olefactory entertainment experience.

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#32596 - 11/18/02 04:48 PM Re: Model 200
CBWills Offline
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Registered: 05/02/02
Posts: 75
Quote:
Originally posted by Matthew Hill:
I still think it's vaporware. An actual product, but vaporware. It's a new downloadable software patch for the 950 that will activate the aromatic hardware already in the unit; giving a new 3S (three senses) audio/visual/olefactory entertainment experience.



Still guessing?
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#32597 - 11/18/02 04:58 PM Re: Model 200
Smart Little Lena Offline
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Registered: 01/09/02
Posts: 1019
Loc: Dallas
For you’re waiting pleasure.

To help discover if you have an LOTR fixation.
http://www.heartstars.net/lotr/lotrlist.html

Some things to ask the significant others in your life to put on your ‘Christmas Wish List’.

For the ceiling in your HT:
http://www.sbtdesigns.com/sbtfiber.html

If you want to have all the guys who stop in eating their hearts out:
http://www.psycho-acoustics.com/sm2.html

and if you want other decorative non-functioning items around your HT. Like Chandeliers made out of drivers.
http://www.psycho-acoustics.com/gallery.html

Tell her you need these earmuffs for the winter:
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/pages/markets/consumer.htm
(won't let me link the 'one', scroll to electrostatic headphones, then click on Orpheus.)

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#32598 - 11/19/02 09:57 AM Re: Model 200
TurnerF Offline
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Registered: 08/07/02
Posts: 66
Loc: Memphis,TN
Thanks for the distraction SLL. As if budgeting for a HT isn't hard enough - now I have to price in a starfield ceiling.

I went to the UF Gator homecoming this weekend and now I'm starting to wonder if some of those people passed out in the gutter after the game weren't the Outlaws themselves... maybe a hangover is the cause for this newsletter delay?

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#32599 - 11/19/02 10:54 AM Re: Model 200
Matthew Hill Offline
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Registered: 11/29/01
Posts: 1434
Loc: Mount Laurel, NJ
Nah, Wills, I know that the guessing is over. I'm just wondering when the waiting is going to be over.

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#32600 - 11/19/02 03:32 PM Re: Model 200
hydro Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
Posts: 35
Loc: Post Falls, ID USA
Finally I can get some work done!

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#32601 - 11/19/02 07:30 PM Re: Model 200
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Registered: 03/04/02
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Loc: El Paso Texas
The waiting is over:Subj: Outlaw Audio Update-Pre-Holiday 2002
Date: 11/19/2002 1:25:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time
From: noreply@outlawaudio.com
To: Eurorom2001@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)



Please note that this message is a post only message. Please direct any replies or remove requests to customerservice@outlawaudio.com . Replies sent to this message will NOT be received by Outlaw Audio.

Outlaw Audio Update-Pre-Holiday 2002

Dear Fellow Outlaw:

Is it almost that time already? The tree lots are getting ready to open, and commercials for silly gifts that no one really wants have replaced political ads on TV.

>From a timing standpoint, this is a peculiar year for those who indulge in Holiday Shopping. Thanksgiving is a week later than u
With that in mind, we beg your indulgence for getting this edition of our Newsletter out a bit later than usual. We wanted to hold it for a variety of reasons so that we could get you some early shopping news along with the usual monthly product updates. We'll most likely come back to you with one more Update before the end of the year, so we've combined a great deal of information here. In addition, to shorten the Newsletter a bit, we've off-loaded some of the more copy-heavy information to our web site. We've also re-formatted this newsletter so that you'll see three major categories: "New Products", "Current Products" and "Everything Else". We hope this makes it easier to get the information to you, so without further ado, here goes:


NEW PRODUCT NEWS

Looking at the postings in the Saloon, it is obvious that we've created a great deal of interest in the Model 200. Now that the contest is over, we are able to provide the product details. We know that the Outlaw community is at the top of their game, and as you'll see a number of you hit the answer right on the mark, or were awfully close. In brief, the Model 200 is a 200 watt mono-block amplifier (20 Hz - 20 kHz @ 8 ohms, >0.05% THD). Even more amazing, it is only one rack unit high! We are in the process of updating our web site to add the Model 200 and you will be able to learn more over the next several days by visiting us at www.outlawaudio.com.

As to the contest, our thanks to everyone who took the time to enter. In addition to the many correct guesses, some of the "wrong" answers may end up being close to products we're working on for the future, but it's WAY too early for more than that. Some of the other guesses gave actually gave us additional ideas that we'll consider for future products.

Now that you know what the Model 200 is, everyone who submitted the correct guess is part of a drawing for a free Model 200. We'll notify the winner directly in a few days. Everyone else who guessed correctly will receive a "runner up" prize in the form of a 50% discount off the Model 200's price.

The second part of the contest was to come up with the best "fun description" of what you thought the Model 200 would be. The Outlaws have selected "JasonA" as the winner with his entry that went far above the call of duty to literally sketch out his answer. Check his message in the Saloon for the details. To be honest, JasonA's entry was so far over the top that we decided to award a second "fun" category amp to "MorphSci", just to prove that the Outlaws DO have a sense of humor.

As a final note, we'll be opening a Model 200 section in the Saloon sometime this week. Baring any additional last-minute problems, we hope to put a limited number of Model 200's on a plane so that they will be available in December. General, "in stock" availability is scheduled for early January.

Moving on to the Model 7100, we're afraid that it has become a victim of the lingering after-effects of the labor dispute at the West Coast ports. While all the ships have almost been unloaded, the disruption in deliveries of key components from Asia threw a major league wrench in the production plans of our amplifier vendor. Not only were parts delayed in the harbor, but the back up of ships is still causing major supply chain issues.

As much as we would have liked to deliver the Model 7100 for the holiday season, we are uncertain as to when it will be available. We hope to have the firm delivery date for you in our next Update. We apologize for this, but this is truly one that is totally outside of our control.

In addition to the two products mentioned above, the Outlaws are working on a number of innovative products for release during 2003, but due to our recent experiences it's too soon to divulge the details. All we can say is that you will be pleasantly surprised to see and hear what we come up with for you in the first half of 2003.


CURRENT PRODUCT NEWS


All current Outlaw products are in stock for immediate delivery, and since we were able to land shipments before the problems at the docks we do not anticipate any back-order problems through the holiday season. However, we do remind you that despite our best efforts to get things out the door, shippers tend to encounter delays in the last six weeks of the year. If you REALLY need to have an order delivered by a specific date, please allow for the possibility of a day or two delay beyond normal ship times. This is particularly true for ground shipments.

In time for the holidays, we are offering "B Stock" versions of the Model 770 and 755 amplifiers, as well as the ICBM, available for the first time.

People often ask what happens to units that are returned by customers under the Satisfaction Guarantee, and the answer is that they become B-Stock units. We can't sell them as new, so we lower the price a bit and let you take advantage of the fact that someone decided to buy something other than an Outlaw. Their loss is your gain!

This gives potential Outlaws on a budget a chance to put a little more music and theater under the tree than they thought their situation allowed. Please note, however, that supplies are limited, and these units are definitely first come, first served.

Note that all "B Stock" units carry the same "30 Day Satisfaction Guarantee" and the same warranties as our new products. They may have minor appearance defects, but are fully checked for "like-new" electrical performance Pricing is as follows:

Model 755: $1,179
Model 770: $1,549
Model 1050: $439
ICBM: $199

Sorry, the Model 950 is not available as a B Stock product at this time.

Speaking of which, we can let you know that a great review of the Model 950 will appear in December in a leading home theater publication. The Model 950 remains alone as the only fully featured, high-performance preamp/processor/tuner under $1,000. We are gratified by the sales pace the Model 950 is setting, and our thanks to those who have taken the time to post reviews and let us know how their unit is working.

For those in the small minority that have kept their Model 950, but have advised us of sonic issues that do not appear in the vast majority of units shipped, rest assured that we are continuing research into the situation and will solve the individual problems on a one-on-one basis.


EVERYTHING ELSE NEWS

A few important housekeeping notes are in order this month. First, as noted above, please understand that while we will do our best to assure on-time deliveries, please anticipate your needs so that we can assure on-time deliveries and a truly happy holiday season.

We have another note with regards to shipping. As you may have read, there will likely be a price increase for UPS shipments in January. At this point we do not know the exact rates, but for those who might use UPS to ship heavier products such as amplifiers may want to consider placing their order before the end of 2002.

Finally, we'd normally see the Editorial Outlaw in this space, but this month he's out prowling the Port of Los Angeles on the lookout for power transistors and heat sinks. When we last heard from him, he was lost inside a cargo container somewhere. Let us know if you find him!

That's it for this month. There is a lot of activity around the Outlaw's Hideout, so we'll probably have one more Update Newsletter for you at some point before the end of the year. Until then, Happy Thanksgiving!


Regards,

The Outlaws


The contents of this Newsletter Update are Copyright © 2002 by Outlaw Audio. All rights reserved. Unauthorized distribution or reproduction is prohibited. Outlaw Audio and the Outlaw Audio logo trademarks of Outlaw Audio.

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#32602 - 02/19/03 10:31 PM Re: Model 200
thigg Offline
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Registered: 12/27/02
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Loc: Stone Mtn., Ga./USA
my first newsbrief from the Editorial Outlaw, and he's not here. sometimes i feel like a motherless-child. lovin ur 950...i like what i read bout the mone block and have suggessted hit to some friends who're lookin for a nice dual mono mains. hope they get em so i can give a listen...and then...oh no.
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