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#26336 - 08/11/04 09:49 PM More than 1 subwoofer ???
Kidtricky Offline
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Registered: 08/11/04
Posts: 2
Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Hello,

How can hook up more than 1 subwoofer to the 950 model ? can it be done ?

I dont own one yet, just wondering if I can do it without daisy chaining them

Thanks

Kid

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#26337 - 08/11/04 10:19 PM Re: More than 1 subwoofer ???
DNicely1 Offline
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Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 134
Loc: Lincoln Park, Mi USA
You need a splitter to make two RCA connections out of the 950 sub out. they sell them everywhere. here is a link to what I purchased, good quality, great price.
www.cobaltcable.com/product/y_splitter.htm hope this helps.

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#26338 - 08/11/04 11:40 PM Re: More than 1 subwoofer ???
Keta Offline
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Registered: 12/29/02
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Loc: Central VA
Outlaw also sells a nice splitter.

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#26339 - 08/11/04 11:52 PM Re: More than 1 subwoofer ???
soundhound Offline
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No sane person needs more than one subwoofer.

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#26340 - 08/12/04 03:22 AM Re: More than 1 subwoofer ???
Kevin C Brown Offline
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Registered: 12/11/01
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Loc: Santa Clara, CA
Soundhound- I'm glad you popped into this thread. (Maybe Boss O Bass will show too.)

*I've* also been thinking about 2 subs. The reason isn't output or low freq extension, it's flat freq response.

Let's see if this works:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/804255/sweetmains+subfullnoeq.jpg

This is an ETF generated plot of my low freq response at the listening position. Sub in the corner, 60 Hz crossover to the mains. I'm pretty proud that all the peaks are level, but I want to fix the suckouts. The only way I know how to do that is with multiple subs. ??


Kidtricky- There's another way to do mulitple subs too: you can use Y connectors from the RCA out on the 950. But you can also add another sub or 2 or more by using the speaker level connections from, for example, the front L & R speakers. You'd set the fronts as Large in that case, and let the sub do the crossing over.



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#26341 - 08/12/04 09:06 AM Re: More than 1 subwoofer ???
Jeff Mackwood Offline
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Registered: 12/19/02
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Some subs have both "in" and "out" line level RCA connections - allowing you to daisy-chain them together using the single sub output on the 950. I don't know why you would not go this route if it's available to you since, depending on the layout of your theatre, it can reduce your cabling costs. An admittedly rare feature unfortunately.

Jeff Mackwood
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#26342 - 08/12/04 09:13 AM Re: More than 1 subwoofer ???
soundhound Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kevin C Brown:

This is an ETF generated plot of my low freq response at the listening position. Sub in the corner, 60 Hz crossover to the mains. I'm pretty proud that all the peaks are level, but I want to fix the suckouts. The only way I know how to do that is with multiple subs. ??


Wow, those are some healty dips! They point to strong room modes and two subs properly placed (by experimentation unfortunately) will help to smooth them out. Good luck.



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#26343 - 08/12/04 10:05 AM Re: More than 1 subwoofer ???
DollarBill Offline
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Registered: 06/17/02
Posts: 180
Loc: Durham, CT
Wow, Kevin, good luck with those. During the advent of your second sub, why don't you try moving your current sub out of the corner? That'll smooth that curve out. My bet is that even with a second sub, you'll be moving the first one out of the corner anyway. I tried a corner loaded sub balanced by a second sub and I couldn't find a good place for the second sub to balance the peaks and valleys. When I moved the first sub out of the corner the balancing got a lot easier.

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#26344 - 08/12/04 10:42 AM Re: More than 1 subwoofer ???
bestbang4thebuck Offline
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Registered: 03/20/03
Posts: 668
Loc: Maryland
If a powered sub has both RCA inputs and outputs, note whether the output passes along the low frequencies, meant for daisy-chaining, or whether the sub is only outputting frequencies above the sub's crossover point meant to be routed to an amp for 'full-range' speaker use. My powered subs do the latter, so I could not daisy chain my subs. I use and Outlaw ICBM to run my subs in a stereo configuration, so the lack of ability to daisy chain was not an issue for me.

As you experiment, you may wish to check the response from more than one position.

Question: if are crossing to your subs at 60Hz, do you think that the suckouts at about 106Hz and 138Hz will be affected more by the placement of your mains than by your sub(s)? Depending on the roll-off above 60Hz for your sub(s), there will still be a little sub activity in the frequency range near the upper two suckouts, but I would think your mains are much more active than the sub(s) at the frequencies of those upper two dips in the graph.


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#26345 - 08/12/04 12:37 PM Re: More than 1 subwoofer ???
pleary Offline
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Registered: 03/15/03
Posts: 22
Loc: Plano, TX, US
Soundhound is insane.

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