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#24770 - 12/11/03 01:12 AM Re: 950 and DVDA/SACD
boblinds Offline
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Registered: 02/07/03
Posts: 242
Loc: Los Angeles
For what it's worth, I use an SVS sub with my NHT 2.5's. Works great.

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#24771 - 12/14/03 11:56 PM Re: 950 and DVDA/SACD
Dan Hitchman Offline
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Registered: 06/17/01
Posts: 103
Loc: Fort Collins, CO USA
Be sure to leave all speakers on the universal player (or whatever player you get) set to LARGE and sub to YES (turning its bass management circuitry to OFF).

Then switch the toggle on the back of the 950 to ON and use the built in 80 Hz analog crossover.

If you leave it OFF and use the player's bass management you will get double bass routed to the sub due to a screw up in the 5.1 analog input's bass management design.

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#24772 - 12/15/03 06:10 PM Re: 950 and DVDA/SACD
MARKWM Offline
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Registered: 10/10/03
Posts: 2
Loc: SILVERDALE, WA USA
This is my reference "blow your buddie's mind" SACD. I would get a universal player, take advantage of the 950's bass management, and see if you can get a player w/ bass management (as the level controls on DVD/Super Audio are different then the level controls on Digital/Analog into the 950) see Denon 2900. Go to track #2, sit down, and wait about 5 minutes for a wild ride!

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#24773 - 12/15/03 07:25 PM Re: 950 and DVDA/SACD
Jason J Offline
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Registered: 09/02/02
Posts: 615
Loc: Northern Garden State
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Originally posted by MARKWM:
This is my reference "blow your buddie's mind" SACD. I would get a universal player, take advantage of the 950's bass management, and see if you can get a player w/ bass management (as the level controls on DVD/Super Audio are different then the level controls on Digital/Analog into the 950) see Denon 2900. Go to track #2, sit down, and wait about 5 minutes for a wild ride!


I think you're on the wrong thread...Dark Side maybe?
Yes, that's one of my demo tracks also!

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#24774 - 12/19/03 08:37 AM Re: 950 and DVDA/SACD
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
Welcome back, VADER. I think it worth noting that (1) bass management is widely agreed to be important for DVD-Audio and SACD (hence the existence of Outlaw's ICBM), and that (2) JAMMINJC was referring to the 950's digital bass management --

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I have the 950’s digital crossovers on all speakers set to 80hz with sub on.


-- which would not be used with DVD-Audio or SACD since they are connected to the 5.1 analog input.

The members of this forum have always tried to be respectful of each other. I would qualify comments like

Quote:
if you would upgrade to the Denon DVD-5900 you wouldn't need a DIP, however by not having a HDTV I guess you believe you are in heaven with that 480i.


to be the polar opposite of that respect. This forum is open to anyone, no matter what the equipment or budget. There are quite a few regulars here with extremely impressive systems, but they are polite enough not to be condescending to others. I invite you to follow their lead in the future.

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#24775 - 12/22/03 09:35 AM Re: 950 and DVDA/SACD
tjandriesen Offline
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Registered: 12/21/03
Posts: 10
Loc: Morristown, NJ
TVD51,

I'm running Hsu VTF 2 (www.hsustore.com/vtf2.html) which I love. One of the nice features of the sub is the ability to configure it for either lower bass (down to 25 Hz according to Hsu) response or a slightly more powerful bass response which is better for movies. I've never hear the other two subs so I'd be hard pressed to make a comparision, but I would put the Hsu on your check it out list. Don't know your budget but they are running around $449 right now.

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#24776 - 01/04/04 09:07 PM Re: 950 and DVDA/SACD
JMS Offline
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Registered: 02/15/02
Posts: 133
Loc: NE Ohio
My LFM is on the way! I'm using three Mackie full range monitors and two slightly inferior Alesis monitors for the rear surrounds. A Pioneer universal 45A is feeding the 950 via all available outputs. As is, I get terrific sound on 6-channel bypass with plenty of bass. I'm assuming that there's unique material on the .1 channel making the lfm worthwhile. My question? Should the 45A be set to full, sub on since the six speaker/monitors will be plugged into the 950? Should I rewire the system in any way to make the sound better? (I understand that the next step is to program the inputs for SACD, DVD-A and CD separately. Right now I just punch six-channel bypass and let the 45A handle the decoding.)

Thanks for listening and writing your comments!

Jay

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#24777 - 01/04/04 09:22 PM Re: 950 and DVDA/SACD
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
Quote:
My question? Should the 45A be set to full, sub on since the six speaker/monitors will be plugged into the 950? Should I rewire the system in any way to make the sound better? (I understand that the next step is to program the inputs for SACD, DVD-A and CD separately. Right now I just punch six-channel bypass and let the 45A handle the decoding.)


Yes, the 45A should be set with all speakers as "large" and the sub as "on." That should be all you need to do for SACD, DVD-Audio, and audio CD.

Some people who use the 950's DACs set up an auxiliary input in stereo mode, separate from the DVD input and the 6-channel analog. If you like using the 45A's DACs for CD's, your current method is fine.

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#24778 - 01/05/04 03:00 AM Re: 950 and DVDA/SACD
Will Offline
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Registered: 05/28/02
Posts: 605
Loc: LA's The Place
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should be set with all speakers as "large" and the sub as "on."

You may want to experiment with the speaker settings a little, and see what sounds best to you. Some people with full range speakers may prefer setting speakers to "small" and have a crossover of say, 40 Hz, which lets the subwoofer play the bass punch, because even speakers rated at all the way down to 20 Hz +/- 3 dB (which is pretty good for a speaker) usually can't reproduce 20 Hz cleanly as loud as most subwoofers can, even though they may be fine at reproducing 20 Hz softly. Also if you play sounds through your speakers near their -3 dB roll off frequency, your speakers will be rolling off sound that would not get rolled off if the sound were directed instead to your subwoofer.

Best,

Will

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#24779 - 01/05/04 11:01 AM Re: 950 and DVDA/SACD
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
In general, that's excellent advice (particularly for the 950's digital bass management), but in this case he's connecting the 6-channel analog ouput of his player to the 950 6-channel analog input and using the 80Hz analog crossover, so it would be best to not do any bass management at the player.

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