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#20981 - 06/06/03 02:23 PM Re: the best DVD's for demo
sdurani Offline
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Jeff,
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Well, the difference between THX Surround EX and Dolby Digital EX is a very small one. THX Surround EX uses the original Dolby-ProLogic decoder to extract the rear channel from the surrounds, whereas Dolby Digital EX using Dolby-ProLogic II to do it.
How about that other small difference between the two modes: one applies all the THX post-processing and the other one doesn't. (I'll let you figure out which is which.)

Sanj
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#20982 - 06/06/03 02:28 PM Re: the best DVD's for demo
hometheaterguy_co Offline
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wow! MC-1's for $1,200! i better dust off my eBay account!

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#20983 - 06/06/03 02:48 PM Re: the best DVD's for demo
D'Arbignal Offline
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Originally posted by sdurani:
Jeff,
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[b] Well, the difference between THX Surround EX and Dolby Digital EX is a very small one. THX Surround EX uses the original Dolby-ProLogic decoder to extract the rear channel from the surrounds, whereas Dolby Digital EX using Dolby-ProLogic II to do it.
How about that other small difference between the two modes: one applies all the THX post-processing and the other one doesn't. (I'll let you figure out which is which.)

Sanj

[/B]


Oh yeah, I forgot that one! Thanks, Sanj! You're still da man!

Jeff

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#20984 - 06/06/03 10:29 PM Re: the best DVD's for demo
Jason J Offline
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That site doesn't mention what I would think would be the most popular of all DD-EX, DTS-ES discs; The Lord of the Rings, The Fellowship of the Ring, Special Extended Edition. (I think I got that right )

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#20985 - 06/07/03 11:35 AM Re: the best DVD's for demo
MeanGene Offline
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You might want to check out...
http://www.aixrecords.com/index.html

Sessions recorded at 96 kHz/24 bits!

All digital high-resolution signal path - no artificial processing

Mixed in 5.1 Channel Surround Sound in the Digital Domain

Alternative Mixing POVs - "Stage" AND "Audience"

Compatibility with DVD-Audio and DVD-Video Players

Multiple Camera Angle Video of the Sessions

Dolby Digital, DTS and MLP Audio Encoding

Comprehensive Setup Info/Test Tones/Demos and FAQs about the DVD format

Web Connection Software and Complete Catalog on Every Disc

When you use the "Point of View" feature of your DVD player and switch between "Stage" and "Audience" you are switching between DTS and DD on the DVD-V side of these DVD's, The DTS being Stage and the DD as audience.

You really sense the difference between the two modes and feel the music in front of you (DD) or you as part of the band (DTS). There is definitely more rear channel information in the DTS mode, although this may have been mixed this way on purpose.

I personally found DTS to be a more enjoyable movie watching format. It seems to me that it not necessarily the format itself, but the extra effort that went into creating a DTS version of the DVD. Kind of like, DD is the standard and when you what to "kick it up a notch" the studio will do their magic and call it DTS.

The DVD-Video and DVD-A (Flipper) DVD's from AIXRecords will not settle the DTS vs. DD argument, but they do point out that a studio can do quite a bit with either format.



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#20986 - 06/07/03 12:38 PM Re: the best DVD's for demo
hometheaterguy_co Offline
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thanks for the informative and accurate reply MeanGene. i have heard all along that DTS is the choice for best audio, but i just haven't experienced it myself yet. that site is great. i'd like to hear Bach Tacotta in D Minor on one of those DVD's.

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#20987 - 06/07/03 12:50 PM Re: the best DVD's for demo
hometheaterguy_co Offline
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THX Ultimate demo DVD
http://www.thx.com/mod/company/demoDVD.html
you guys need this one.

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#20988 - 06/07/03 04:18 PM Re: the best DVD's for demo
Jason J Offline
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FWIW, I heard the AIX demo at HE 2002 in NYC. I really wasn't all that impressed with it. It may have been the hotel room the demo took place in, but the "stage" POV to me was just annoying. Putting instruments into the surround channels just didn't work for me.

It might just be my taste. On the DSOTM SACD, the cash registers on "Money" going from speaker to speaker also feels like a gimmick. I really like other parts of that mix where more ambience and even background vocals are thrown into the suurounds creating a wider and "surrounding" soundstage. That to me feels like a better use of surrounds for music.

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THX Ultimate demo DVD
http://www.thx.com/mod/company/demoDVD.html
you guys need this one.


Can you please tell me where I could get this? Also, if you do have it, what does it feature that isn't on a sampling of THX-certified DVDs?

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#20989 - 06/11/03 11:30 AM Re: the best DVD's for demo
hometheaterguy_co Offline
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you cannot get the THX demo DVD from THX, but from one of their dealers. it includes clips of trailers and radical sound effects from movies. aspirin not included, but great for home theater demo.
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#20990 - 06/11/03 11:32 AM Re: the best DVD's for demo
hometheaterguy_co Offline
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Jeff, why would a MC-1 be better than a DC-1, when THX EX is just matrixed, and Logic 7 stereo surround? i will be using the same processing in the DC-1 as that in the MC-1 will i not? is there an advantage, save a better warranty?
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