Why is the server not responding???

Posted by: XenonMan

Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:12 AM

Gives me a less than confident feeling when this comes up and I can't get to the Black Friday super secret door sale.

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Posted by: ronald roberts

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:19 AM

it suxs but at least i know it isnt only me cox cable has been a bear today
Posted by: ronald roberts

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:22 AM

hope they have it back up soon for your sake, im pacific time just little past 9 here
Posted by: hoeffel

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:26 AM

I can't log in here in NJ either. Too bad for Outlaw... I was ready to spend some $$$ on speakers for my Outlaw receiver.
Posted by: XenonMan

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:27 AM

Facebook has been a beeatch all day too.
Posted by: eskendir

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:37 AM

I just learned from AVSforum that no subs are on the private sale.
Posted by: eskendir

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:39 AM

So much for all that private sale drama!!!
Posted by: Keta

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:43 AM

No luck in PA either
Posted by: SteelyNJ

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:45 AM

Almost 1:00 AM here, can't get to the sale page and have to work in the morning. Kind of annoying after giving Outlaw all that information and making sure to be by the PC after midnight.

EDIT: Just got this...
"A username and password are being requested by https://www.outlawaudio.com. The site says: "Protected-Directory"
Posted by: ronald roberts

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:48 AM

i understand, i was taking the plunge into outlaw world, but i will wait a bit longer if still no good it might be emo for me i have to hit the sack soon got load in for a concert at 7 am in the morning
Posted by: ronald roberts

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 02:10 AM

dont get me wrong i just aint a patient person i was ready to drop some dough 2 days ago then the "great deals friday" so i figured id wait but now i cant even go in and get the plain holiday prices. I can call yamaha on p5md digital board right now some one would answer and i would have parts here tomorrow by noon
Posted by: PeterT

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 03:24 AM

For those of you who have signed up for our private sale:

We deeply apologize for the site crash. So many logged in all at once that it overloaded the servers. We are working on it and hope to resolve it soon.

For those that are wondering, I can confirm that there are no subs included in this private sale. We periodically promote those products and depending on the time of year those sale prices can be very aggressive.(such as the M-8 on our Black Friday page)

When you finally see what is in the private area, most of the offerings will be high performance products from some of our colleagues. One of our very best products is offered at the lowest price ever.

Again, we are sorry for this access problem. In our eleven year history, no overload on this scale has ever happened to us.

Peter
Posted by: XenonMan

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 08:46 AM

0800 am here in NC and still no access. Any idea how much longer?
Posted by: eskendir

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 08:48 AM

Originally Posted By: PeterT
In our eleven year history, no overload on this scale has ever happened to us.

Peter


That is because we started discussing at avsforum and slickdeals about grabbing one of your subs. We all though there would be aggressive discount on the subs and have been eagerly waiting. Form the comments posted there, you will see how many of us were disappointed the subs were not included. Check the Outlaw audio owners thread over there to see the outrage of your loyal customers. What really makes this a private sale that required a secret web address and a site key is beyond me!
Posted by: PeterT

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 10:54 AM

Xenonman,

I just checked from here in Nothern Maine (visiting family) and after two attempts I could get in. I also checked our order log and we have already received a large number of purchases from the private sale area.(For those who have seen the deals, they can probably determine why this is a private sale and also why it lasts just 48 hours.)

While we are not the first company to encounter site crashes due to high traffic, we are probably the smallest one to suffer this problem.
If we ever do this again, we will have to find ways to handle so much traffic in a short period.

For now, we ask you to bear with us and keep trying. You will get through.As we have already seen, those few deals are worth it. If we happen to sell out" before you can get there we will commit to fill your order at that price on a future delivery.

Peter
Posted by: Keta

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 11:05 AM

I find this "private sale" humorous, nothing that couldn't have been attached to an email, like the black Friday sale. Seems to have generated a lot of interest but ultimately a bust for the consumer if you were looking for an Outlaw product! One amp, really.
Posted by: hoeffel

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 11:16 AM

Peter... I work for a website (www.allaccess.com), a radio/music biz news and information site, and yes, on occasion we have crashed due to high traffic. That traffic was driven by a breaking news story that generated a lot of interest. It is very difficult to prepare for that. Given the fact that you've heavily marketed this sale, and set a firm timeline, you should have added extra capacity to ensure that you could meet the demand, and not piss off your customers. When this happens to our site, we see it as a "good problem." However, we're not in retail. The fact that a) I can't get to the sale page, and b) I can't even get to the site to pay full price, on the #1 shopping day of the year, means that you shot yourself in both feet.

Love my Outlaw receiver. Wanted to add Outlaw speakers. Looks like that's not gonna happen... and there are plenty of other options.
Posted by: gonk

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 11:33 AM

The deals on the non-Outlaw products (particularly the speakers) are significant enough that I can understand the desire to keep a few of these items "under wraps" - the magnitude of the discount and the fact that they can also be had through conventional dealer networks (which means people who have developed a fear and loathing of online dealers undercutting them) could make for some sticky conversations.

It also makes sense that these deals are mainly focused on non-Outlaw gear, because it is simple enough for them to run the sale prices for their own stuff on the "public" sale page. A big sale on subs or amps would have worked just fine without the private page...
Posted by: ronald roberts

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 11:44 AM

i got in around 5 am pst but couldnt check anything out, been trying since then to no headway
Posted by: PeterT

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 12:58 PM

Ronald,

Try it now.
Posted by: evan

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:03 PM

I've been trying all morning and can't access it
Posted by: needahremedy

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:12 PM

Thought it was just me. OUTLAW are you paying attention. If I can't purchase soon I may wait for the after xmas sales elsewhere. How about a redo or an extension on these offers?
Posted by: soccerdad

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:54 PM

I looked at the Private sale products but but didn't try ordering anything. I was able to order the M8/OAW3 combo however. It took a couple of tries but the order went thru.
Posted by: MICKWOODLYN

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 01:55 PM

DON'T WASTE MY TIME IN THE FUTURE IF YOU GENIUSES CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO RUN A SALE. THIS IS AN EMBARRASSMENT FOR OUTLAW TO PUT THEMSELVES IN THIS KIND OF RIDICULOUS SITUATION!!!!!
Posted by: evan

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: needahremedy
Thought it was just me. OUTLAW are you paying attention. If I can't purchase soon I may wait for the after xmas sales elsewhere. How about a redo or an extension on these offers?


By the time I get in everything will be gone
Posted by: XenonMan

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 02:46 PM

Still can't get on the site. I can't believe we are 14 hours into the super secret sale and the freakin server is still not fixed. WTF??

This was at 1349 EST
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Posted by: gwhiz

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 03:19 PM

In NC it's 2:15 pm and cannot access the server. Still getting service temp unavailable.
can someone just email me what's on sale.
Posted by: PeterT

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 03:52 PM

Please send me a PM with your phone number. You should be able to get in to the site now. I want to ask you a few questions.

Peter
Posted by: ronald roberts

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 04:32 PM

i just got in also got a email from outlaw let them know they will take care of ya restored my faith in the of course im biased they are old audio eng like me....lol
Posted by: XenonMan

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 05:19 PM

Finally got on the super secret door sale page. Couldn't get on until I used the link in the email I got this afternoon. The original links didn't function at all even when I typed the URL code directly. Nothing I want at the moment. I was hoping for an insanely priced OWA3. What a bummer...
Posted by: admin

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 05:19 PM

Special Outlaw Private Sale Update

Dear Fellow Outlaw:

Despite the addition of additional server capacity to handle the traffic generated by our SECRET DOOR sale, some of you may have experienced problems with our web site due to the huge demand. We have also received some reports that your User ID and personal access key combination was not working. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

We have tested each of the unique keys to make certain that they work properly and the failures have been isolated to two primary causes. Please note the following hints to avoid any problems:

1) Copying and pasting the User ID and pass key will sometimes introduce additional characters/spaces into your unique log on. To avoid this, carefully type the user id and pass key into the log-in window rather than cutting and pasting it.
2) Your unique User ID does not include any special characters. When you type it during log in make certain that you do not include the ".","+","'" or "@" symbol.

For your convenience, your unique User ID and Pass Key are as follows:

Your private sale User ID is: xxxxxxxx
Your private sale personal Access Key is: xxxxxxxx

The link to the private sale web page is: http://www.outlawaudio.com/special/prs.html

Despite the addition of enhanced server capacity, it is possible that the high site traffic may periodically cause delays during peak periods. To help with that we have taken the following steps to ensure you are able to access the site and open the SECRET DOOR to our promotional prices:

1) We have extended the promotional period until Sunday, November 27th at 1:00PM EST.
2) We have created a special email address, specialsupport@outlawaudio.com for you to report any difficulties accessing our site. We will honor the special pricing for any authorized customers who report issues to this email address DURING the promotional period. Please be sure to include your User ID and pass key in your report.

Finally, we have received a few emails regarding the lack of subwoofers in our private sale. While our LFM series subwoofers were not behind the SECRET DOOR they ARE available at discounted prices in our annual Black Friday/Cyber Promo. For example, the LFM-1 EX subwoofer which normally sells for $649 plus shipping ($89.85) is currently available in combination with the OAW3 wireless Audio System, a total value of $887 for only $648 with FREE Ground Shipping included. That saves you $238! This special offer and more may be accessed through the Black Friday/Cyber Monday Offer link at the top of the Outlaw home page.

Best regards,

The Outlaws
Posted by: eskendir

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 08:04 PM

While the LFM-1 OAW3 wireless Audio System combo is a great deal for someone who wants a wireless system, for those of us who do not want it, is not such a great deal. It looks to me that you are trying to move the OAW3 wireless Audio System along with the LFM subs, which no doubt is what most of us were after. While it is quite all right for Outlaw to devise such a strategy to move the OAW3 inventory, what pisses me off is the anticipation that you built-up by asking us to sign up, saying "ohooo don't tell anyone...this is an exclusive private sale-by registration only", and then build up word of mouth chatter, only to offer other manufacturers product and only one from your own catalog. I was the one who started the chatter at avsforum Outlaw owners thread and put everybody on notice of this upcoming private sale. We discussed about the subs in general, and how many we were going to buy in the so called private sale, we were all eager and anxiously waiting. I kind of feel responsible for all the outrage and disappointment over there. I let my fellow members down. If I had to do it, I will not do it. I won't do it again in the future for sure. False hope then disappointment sure lingers for quite a while. Alas, no LFM for me as I have a strict budget of $560 for a sub and I was counting on this PRIVATE SALE!!!. well, the hunts sub goes on....
Posted by: XenonMan

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/25/11 10:23 PM

Fortunately Outlaw puts its subs on sale quite frequently with free shipping to boot. Have you thought about two M-8s.
Posted by: eskendir

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/26/11 12:17 AM

Originally Posted By: XenonMan
Fortunately Outlaw puts its subs on sale quite frequently with free shipping to boot. Have you thought about two M-8s.


I have the Energy S10.3 now and I feel that sub is inadequate for my room. I need the LFM-1 Plus at a minimum if not the LFM-1 EX.
Posted by: XenonMan

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/26/11 01:06 AM

The lfm plus is on sale for 548 right now with the owa3 wireless and free shipping. Can't see how that will be beat. You could always sell the owa3 for $100 or so on ebay. I would buy it from you.
Posted by: hifihunter

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/26/11 01:47 AM

eskendir, not sure why think you have let anyone down. Your discussion on avsforum was based on speculation on what Outlaws would offer in this private sale. Outlaws never said they could offer a sub in the private sale. People involved in your discussion should know it's all but a speculation. You can’t blame yourself for a speculation that didn’t come true.
Posted by: eskendir

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/26/11 09:21 AM

^^^You are probably right hifihunter. I just feel that way.
Posted by: eskendir

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/26/11 09:21 AM

Originally Posted By: XenonMan
The lfm plus is on sale for 548 right now with the owa3 wireless and free shipping. Can't see how that will be beat. You could always sell the owa3 for $100 or so on ebay. I would buy it from you.


I never thought of that. You got a PM.
Posted by: XenonMan

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/26/11 09:30 AM

PM me through Outlaw above.
Posted by: eskendir

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/26/11 09:52 AM

PM sent.
Posted by: jishaq

Re: Why is the server not responding??? - 11/27/11 12:58 AM

Originally Posted By: XenonMan
Finally got on the super secret door sale page. Couldn't get on until I used the link in the email I got this afternoon.


Welp, you got a lot further than I did. I filled out the survey form (and I don't usually give that level of private information!) literally the moment after the invitation to the private sale landed in my inbox on the 18th. I was very excited! I was careful to supply all the information, and made sure it submitted without a 404, yet I have not received any email link to, no secret personalized password or login, nothing!

In reading the forums, it seems like I'm the only person this happened to. Everybody else is complaining about the server being down and their logins not working, yet I don't even have a login. Oh well.

I filed a support ticket and emailed the special email address, and have not heard anything back. It's too bad, it sounded like a cool idea, and I was dying to buy some new audio gear, but its execution leaves a bad taste in my mouth .

-Jeff

ps: Yes, I checked my spam folder and yes, I'm sure the form submission was successful; I write software for a living, I would recognize if there was an issue in these regards.