Using tape out for headphone amp

Posted by: mudshark1

Using tape out for headphone amp - 09/12/10 12:40 AM

I recently decided to set-up a headphone rig and have mercy on my better half when I listen to music late at night. I bought Shure 440 phones and a T-Amp headphone amp. I have the T-Amp hooked to the tape out monitor outputs on the 950. I'm having a problem with waaay too much gain to the T-Amp in this configuration. I can only turn up the volume on the T-Amp 10-20% until I get major clipping. Below that it sounds pretty darn good. I'm trying some Harris -12db inline attenuators that do the job and choke the gain but I don't really like the way they sound. They make the T-Amp usuable but it sounds lifeless with them in the signal path. I'm wondering if it would be better to use the Zone output on the 950 instead of the tape out? Are the output voltages the same from the Zone and the tape out? Any ideas, advice, info, opinions would be appreciated.
Regards, Sam
Posted by: Jimna

Re: Using tape out for headphone amp - 09/12/10 01:21 AM

I read about guy bragging of the T-amps with mid to large sized speakers, and they love the combo, I am willing to bet your just over driving the hell out of those HPs. Be careful you don't destroy them.
Posted by: mudshark1

Re: Using tape out for headphone amp - 09/12/10 01:29 AM

That could very well be. I will say this, the amp had a lot of noise and hum until I installed the attenuators. Then the noise and the hum pretty much disappeared which indicates too much gain to me.
Posted by: gonk

Re: Using tape out for headphone amp - 09/12/10 07:46 AM

Zone output has a separate volume control, while the tape output has no such control - probably better to use the zone out.
Posted by: XenonMan

Re: Using tape out for headphone amp - 09/12/10 07:54 AM

Have you tried driving the headphones straight from the tape output? It definitely sounds like you have too much power going to the headphones.
Posted by: mudshark1

Re: Using tape out for headphone amp - 09/12/10 09:14 PM

If my reasoning is correct, would'nt the volume control for the multi-zone output act as a gain control for the headphone amp starting with a zero level and increasing to wherever I want it? Does'nt it work the same as the main volume control with zero resulting in no output to the speakers. After all the multi-zone is there to feed a second amp which in my case would be my headphone amp. Thanks for everyone's help by responding to my thread.
Regards, Sam
Posted by: gonk

Re: Using tape out for headphone amp - 09/12/10 10:13 PM

Yes, the second zone volume control will provide gain control for the headphone amp. If you are over-driving the amp with the tape output, that would resolve the problem.
Posted by: mudshark1

Re: Using tape out for headphone amp - 09/12/10 11:09 PM

Thanks Gonk!!
I really don't have any excuse for not hooking it up this way to start with. When all else fails, read the manual. Actually I just didn't think of the multi-zone out, I've never had any reason to use it before now. DUUHH???
Best Regards, Sam
Posted by: mudshark1

Re: Using tape out for headphone amp - 09/14/10 02:26 AM

Everything works as it should using the multi-zone output. The little T-Amp sounds great now that the gain is down where it should be and its no longer being overdriven from the tape out output. Thanks for the help everyone.
Regards, Sam cool
Posted by: gonk

Re: Using tape out for headphone amp - 09/14/10 06:39 AM

Glad to hear you've got it working!