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#99171 - 02/09/21 12:50 PM Out of Phase after running Auto Setup
drueb Offline
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Registered: 01/13/16
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Loc: Texas
After running auto setup, I get a pop up window that says all my speakers are out of phase. I checked the connections, and they are all properly connected. Is this a glitch in the software of the 976?
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#99172 - 02/09/21 03:18 PM Re: Out of Phase after running Auto Setup [Re: drueb]
arbitrageur Offline
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Registered: 12/16/17
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Loc: Minneapolis, MN
Hi Drueb, I'd trust your own verification of cabling and how it sounds over the auto setup.

I have seen a lot of messages about auto-setup trouble over the years. It can be useful for level, phase, and distance settings but it is a single microphone in a room and can therefore take measurements in a location with a terrible room node or reflection that throws it off.
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#99173 - 02/09/21 10:23 PM Re: Out of Phase after running Auto Setup [Re: arbitrageur]
drueb Offline
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Registered: 01/13/16
Posts: 77
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By arbitrageur
Hi Drueb, I'd trust your own verification of cabling and how it sounds over the auto setup.

I have seen a lot of messages about auto-setup trouble over the years. It can be useful for level, phase, and distance settings but it is a single microphone in a room and can therefore take measurements in a location with a terrible room node or reflection that throws it off.





I agree with your logic, arbitrageur. I figured as much. Thanks for the input.
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Outlaw Model 976 AV Surround Processor
Outlaw Model 5000 5 Channel Amplifier
JBL Studio 590 Left and Right
JBL Studio 520C Center
2 JBL Sub 550P
Polk 265RT 3 Way Surrounds (in wall)
Sony Bravia 77" Class - A80CJ Series - 4K UHD OLED TV
Panasonic DP-UB820-K 4K Player
Technics SL 1210 GR (2019)
Ray Samuels F-117 Nighthawk - Phono Preamp
Ortofon Bronze 2M; Ortofon Headshell;Emmeline Nighthawk Phono Pre-Amp by Ray Sammuels
Schitt Loki
Wire World RCA Cables
Drop THX AAA 789 Headphone Amp
Blue Jeans Speaker Cable Belden 10-gauge 5T00UP (Front L&R and Center)
Blue Jeans Interconnects LC-1's



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#99174 - 02/12/21 11:11 AM Re: Out of Phase after running Auto Setup [Re: drueb]
Helson Offline
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Registered: 03/21/12
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Loc: USA
If all channels are reading out of phase, are you using the 976 mic? Some mic's are opposite polarity.
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