#97815 - 02/22/18 12:31 PM
First Post, DAC Question
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 02/13/18
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So, I received my 976 and hooked it up. I initially went analog out from my Oppo 103 to the 976, then analog out to my amps. I have a 4.1 system, Bryston 4B SST2 to the front B&W 800D2s, Adcom 545 (100WPC) to M&K rear surrounds, M&K V125 sub. I was thinking that the Oppo would be better at audio processing than the Outlaw. I'm now running HDMI between the Oppo and Outlaw. Just wondering if there's any real life difference, and if so, which is better. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
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#97816 - 02/22/18 01:31 PM
Re: First Post, DAC Question
[Re: Paddler]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 283
Loc: USA
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The analog on the 976 is a pure analog input. So, you can do an A/B comparison and let us know.
Set one input up for analog and another for HDMI, from the Oppo.
Switching from one input to the other which sounds better, through the HDMI, through the analog, or is it indiscernible.
Edited by Helson (02/22/18 01:33 PM)
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#97817 - 02/22/18 03:42 PM
Re: First Post, DAC Question
[Re: Helson]
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Deputy Gunslinger
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Understand. I was just wondering if anyone has already done this or had any thoughts. I don't trust my ears all that much.
Edited by Paddler (02/22/18 03:43 PM)
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#97820 - 02/22/18 10:02 PM
Re: First Post, DAC Question
[Re: Owl's_Warder]
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 02/13/18
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Honestly, if you can't tell the difference it really doesn't matter. The bottom line is what sounds best to you because you're the one using it. If there's no discernible difference, I'd personally just use the HDMI for a cleaner system. Removal of cable clutter is an awesome thing.  Agreed about cable management. Just wondering if anybody has an informed opinion about any possible quality difference. The Oppo is well respected, but I see no reason to think the Outlaw is not its equal.
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#97821 - 02/22/18 11:17 PM
Re: First Post, DAC Question
[Re: Paddler]
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Desperado
Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
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IMHO, I doubt anyone has the ears to hear a difference but if someone does try to compare the two make sure the levels are matched because in every case the louder signal will sound better. I used to run my OPPO 83 to my 990 via analog connections and it was very good. When I switched the systems around I ran the OPPO 83 to my Onkyo via HDMI. To be honest I can't tell any difference but...(here is the disclaimer) I am 63 and my hearing is much worse than it used to be and the two systems are in completely different environments. Try both setups and see which one you like best. Personally I would stick with HDMI for simplicity.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner
TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv
Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner
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#97826 - 02/23/18 04:49 AM
Re: First Post, DAC Question
[Re: XenonMan]
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 02/13/18
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IMHO, I doubt anyone has the ears to hear a difference but if someone does try to compare the two make sure the levels are matched because in every case the louder signal will sound better. I used to run my OPPO 83 to my 990 via analog connections and it was very good. When I switched the systems around I ran the OPPO 83 to my Onkyo via HDMI. To be honest I can't tell any difference but...(here is the disclaimer) I am 63 and my hearing is much worse than it used to be and the two systems are in completely different environments. Try both setups and see which one you like best. Personally I would stick with HDMI for simplicity. I'm 66 and my wife thinks I need hearing aids. That's why I have a 300WPC amp.
Edited by Paddler (02/23/18 04:50 AM)
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#97827 - 02/23/18 10:09 AM
Re: First Post, DAC Question
[Re: Paddler]
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Desperado
Registered: 03/30/01
Posts: 348
Loc: Austin, Texas, USA
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"That's why I have a 300WPC amp."
NICE! That's the way to combat the hearing aid thing!
On a serious note, there are soon to be available hearing "help" devices (there's a term, but I've forgotten it) that will be reasonably priced and have good specs. The hearing aid industry is understandably opposing it, but probably won't be able to stop it. So, you'll be able to purchase at Best Buy no doubt.
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#97831 - 02/23/18 02:41 PM
Re: First Post, DAC Question
[Re: Paddler]
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Desperado
Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
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Maybe the 300 wpc is the reason you need hearing aids. LOL.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner
TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv
Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner
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#97835 - 02/23/18 05:43 PM
Re: First Post, DAC Question
[Re: Paddler]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 283
Loc: USA
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Are you referring to Bluetooth hearing aids?
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