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#88973 - 01/07/12 03:50 PM 3D WOES
opusX Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 17
Loc: McKinney, TX
I cannot get my system to play 3D. Please help! This is super frustrating. mad

But my 2D viewing is absolutely phenomenal.
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Outlaw 990 & 7700
OPPO BDP-93
Panasonic PT-AE7000U 3D Projector
Direct TV Set top
DA-Lite 120" Screen
Panamax 5400EX (Filtering System Components)
Furman M-8 x2 (Filtering ML Fronts, Center & Subs)

Martin Logan Aeon i (Front)
Martin Logan Theater i (Center)
2 Martin Logan Descent (Subs)
Monitor Audio (Surrounds)
800 Watt Buttshaker Amplifier w/6 Bass Transducers

Accessories:
Cardas, Kimber Kable, Blue Jeans Interconnects
Naim Audio Speaker Cable
Toslink's
DIY Sound Panels | Bass Traps
Logitech 1100 Remote

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#88975 - 01/07/12 04:31 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: opusX]
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
What hardware are you using and how do you have it connected?
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#88976 - 01/07/12 04:57 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: gonk]
opusX Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 17
Loc: McKinney, TX
oppo 93
panasonic PT-AE7000
990/7700

Gonk, the only connections I changed; with the system you helped me virtually build, was adding the 93 and the 7000. 2D viewing is a wonderful thing but everything seems to lose synchronization when 3D is attempted.
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Outlaw 990 & 7700
OPPO BDP-93
Panasonic PT-AE7000U 3D Projector
Direct TV Set top
DA-Lite 120" Screen
Panamax 5400EX (Filtering System Components)
Furman M-8 x2 (Filtering ML Fronts, Center & Subs)

Martin Logan Aeon i (Front)
Martin Logan Theater i (Center)
2 Martin Logan Descent (Subs)
Monitor Audio (Surrounds)
800 Watt Buttshaker Amplifier w/6 Bass Transducers

Accessories:
Cardas, Kimber Kable, Blue Jeans Interconnects
Naim Audio Speaker Cable
Toslink's
DIY Sound Panels | Bass Traps
Logitech 1100 Remote

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#88978 - 01/07/12 06:30 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: opusX]
EEman Offline
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Registered: 11/11/09
Posts: 514
Loc: Canton, MI
Are you using a High Speed HDMI cable to hook the Oppo to the AE7000? Standard Speed HDMI probably won't support 3D data rates.

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#88979 - 01/07/12 06:36 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: EEman]
opusX Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 17
Loc: McKinney, TX
I think I'm using the old standard 1.2.
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Outlaw 990 & 7700
OPPO BDP-93
Panasonic PT-AE7000U 3D Projector
Direct TV Set top
DA-Lite 120" Screen
Panamax 5400EX (Filtering System Components)
Furman M-8 x2 (Filtering ML Fronts, Center & Subs)

Martin Logan Aeon i (Front)
Martin Logan Theater i (Center)
2 Martin Logan Descent (Subs)
Monitor Audio (Surrounds)
800 Watt Buttshaker Amplifier w/6 Bass Transducers

Accessories:
Cardas, Kimber Kable, Blue Jeans Interconnects
Naim Audio Speaker Cable
Toslink's
DIY Sound Panels | Bass Traps
Logitech 1100 Remote

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#88988 - 01/08/12 02:16 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: opusX]
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
How is it all connected? Does the HDMI connection from the BDP-93 go directly to the projector? If so, the issue may be related to cable length and the additional data that is involved in a 3D video signal.
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#88989 - 01/08/12 02:35 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: gonk]
opusX Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 17
Loc: McKinney, TX
Yes the connection is directly to the projector from the 93 but do you think the issue could be that I'm using the standard HDMI 1.2 and not the High Speed HDMI 1.4 that supports 1080p, 3D and Deep Color?
_________________________
Outlaw 990 & 7700
OPPO BDP-93
Panasonic PT-AE7000U 3D Projector
Direct TV Set top
DA-Lite 120" Screen
Panamax 5400EX (Filtering System Components)
Furman M-8 x2 (Filtering ML Fronts, Center & Subs)

Martin Logan Aeon i (Front)
Martin Logan Theater i (Center)
2 Martin Logan Descent (Subs)
Monitor Audio (Surrounds)
800 Watt Buttshaker Amplifier w/6 Bass Transducers

Accessories:
Cardas, Kimber Kable, Blue Jeans Interconnects
Naim Audio Speaker Cable
Toslink's
DIY Sound Panels | Bass Traps
Logitech 1100 Remote

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#88990 - 01/08/12 04:06 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: opusX]
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
The ratings on cables are a bit dubious. That being said, 3D over HDMI does require more bandwidth, and that may be enough (particularly over the long length required for a front projector) for your existing cable to become a problem.
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#88991 - 01/08/12 04:34 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: gonk]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
I consider Blue Jeans cable to be a reliable source of information and high quality cables. According to them the HDMI Version 1.0 cable is fully compliant with HDMI 1.4 but may not be high speed cable. There is some difference in the cable as far as speed but over short runs it may work as long as it is not defective and you don't require Ethernet. To Gonks point, a long run over HDMI does present problems. Can you test the projector with a short HDMI cable to verify it is the long run giving you problems? When I construct my HT room I plan on eliminating the long run issues because I see 4K coming down the road.

See this link to BJC:

http://bluejeanscable.com/articles/hdmi-1-4-cable.htm?hdmiinfo
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#88992 - 01/08/12 05:30 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: XenonMan]
opusX Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 17
Loc: McKinney, TX
Unfortunately testing a short run would be nearly impossible because of how my HT is configured. My HMDI run from the (ceiling mounted) projector back to my equipment rack is nearly 25ft. After doing some research it appears I will need to rerun a high speed HDMI (1.4) to get full HD and 3D. Thoughts
_________________________
Outlaw 990 & 7700
OPPO BDP-93
Panasonic PT-AE7000U 3D Projector
Direct TV Set top
DA-Lite 120" Screen
Panamax 5400EX (Filtering System Components)
Furman M-8 x2 (Filtering ML Fronts, Center & Subs)

Martin Logan Aeon i (Front)
Martin Logan Theater i (Center)
2 Martin Logan Descent (Subs)
Monitor Audio (Surrounds)
800 Watt Buttshaker Amplifier w/6 Bass Transducers

Accessories:
Cardas, Kimber Kable, Blue Jeans Interconnects
Naim Audio Speaker Cable
Toslink's
DIY Sound Panels | Bass Traps
Logitech 1100 Remote

Top
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