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#86143 - 02/22/11 06:36 PM OSD over source
Bill O Offline
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After years of thinking the 990 OSD , when activated , would only show black background with menu's, I was mistaken.
Having to rearange my set up, low and behold I had OSD over program material I was viewing for 2 short days, ... then
Today having to make some changes to 7.1 inputs from Oppo to 990, I lost OSD over program material I an viewing.
I have not a clue of what I did to lose it, nor what I did to actually have it.
I am connected to TV via Component Video from the 990 and from Oppo to 990.
I also have the Oppo DVD p conected to TV via HDMI cable, but when making changes to the 990 menu's, I switch to Component Video on TV.

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#86152 - 02/22/11 11:01 PM Re: OSD over source [Re: Bill O]
gonk Offline
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The OSD will be overlayed on material that is input via s-video, composite video, and possibly 480i component video (not sure about that last one). The OPPO is probably not outputting 480i, so it won't get an OSD overlay.
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#86155 - 02/23/11 01:33 AM Re: OSD over source [Re: gonk]
Bill O Offline
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It was overlayered on Component video. I also have composite video conected and have toggled back and forth between the two without any success today.
I will try again in the morning.

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#86156 - 02/23/11 11:05 AM Re: OSD over source [Re: Bill O]
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The menus will overlay on component, but the rest of the OSD will only sisplay via composit or S video.
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#86158 - 02/23/11 01:51 PM Re: OSD over source [Re: KOYAAN]
gonk Offline
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To be more exact, the menus will be generated on a black background with component video inputs, while they will be superimposed onto the incoming video source with composite and s-video inputs. I think the menus can also be superimposed over the incoming video source with 480i component video signals, but I could be wrong - it isn't mentioned in the manual, and I didn't routinely use any 480i component sources with my Model 990 when I had one.

Additionally, the on-screen messages for things like volume and input are only provided with s-video and composite video inputs. They might also work with 480i component, but I don't know for sure.
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#86159 - 02/23/11 04:11 PM Re: OSD over source [Re: gonk]
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On screen messages do not show on 480i component. They only show on composite and s-video.
That's kind of a neat feature if you want to use a secondary display for control purposes. You do that, don't you Gonk?
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#86160 - 02/23/11 04:49 PM Re: OSD over source [Re: KOYAAN]
gonk Offline
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Originally Posted By: KOYAAN
On screen messages do not show on 480i component. They only show on composite and s-video.

Thanks for the confirmation on that. Do you recall if the setup menu get overlaid onto the incoming video signal when using a 480i component input?

Originally Posted By: KOYAAN
That's kind of a neat feature if you want to use a secondary display for control purposes. You do that, don't you Gonk?

I do not, although I've heard of other folks doing it. I do have a "secondary" display in my stereo system, though. It is a small LCD screen so I can see the video output from my player, which is great for player configuration, DVD-Audio menus, Blu-ray menus, DLNA server access, and CD or SACD text.
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#86162 - 02/23/11 05:44 PM Re: OSD over source [Re: gonk]
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Are these OSD messages (separate from the setup menu's), that do not display on the component output, things like the volume, input source or lip sync delay that already display on the 990 display or something else?

I have a hard time visualizing a use for this, unless the 990 is hidden from normal view (in which case, its probably a great feature for those with a small secondary display)


Edited by 73Bruin (02/23/11 10:02 PM)
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#86163 - 02/23/11 06:08 PM Re: OSD over source [Re: 73Bruin]
Bill O Offline
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Thanks for helping me figure this out. While viewing DVD ,the 990's OSD will display over program material through composite.However when I switch over to 7.1 anolog, even with composite selected, it will not, comes up black screen.
This puzzles me, yet I realy have no need to see program material when listening to DVD-A or SACD.

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#86164 - 02/23/11 06:19 PM Re: OSD over source [Re: Bill O]
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Originally Posted By: Bill O
Thanks for helping me figure this out. While viewing DVD ,the 990's OSD will display over program material through composite.However when I switch over to 7.1 anolog, even with composite selected, it will not, comes up black screen.
This puzzles me, yet I realy have no need to see program material when listening to DVD-A or SACD.

What is your video signal path when using the 7.1 Direct input? The 7.1 D input does have a dedicated composite input, but is the player's composite output connected to that input or to the input assigned "DVD"?
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