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#27134 - 12/16/04 11:36 PM 950 with active speakers
amacks Offline
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Registered: 04/30/02
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I'm designing my upcoming HT system(migrating from stereo). I'm seriously considering using something like Genelec active speakers for all points, removing the need for a massive multi-channel amp. The problem with this is that I want to run balanced signal to the speakers. Is it worth waiting for the replacement to the 950, or get some injectors ( http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&did=7&partnumber=248-732&sf=04g-022 ) with the 950 on sale
Aaron

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#27135 - 12/19/04 09:53 PM Re: 950 with active speakers
JMS Offline
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Registered: 02/15/02
Posts: 133
Loc: NE Ohio
Aaron,

I use 5 Mackie powered monitors (plus the lfm-1) and,let me tell ya, it's great for music and ht. Of course, even though the Mackie's offer xlr inputs, I'm using unbalanced custom made cables cut to the exact length I need. My understanding is that, under a certain number of feet, balanced lines don't add any audible improvement. I certainly don't have any issues with using the 2-conductor 1/4" phone plug inputs on the Mackie's. I do use a "Brick" line conditioner/spike protector which really seems to add a "black" background to the audio...

Jay

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#27136 - 12/20/04 12:39 PM Re: 950 with active speakers
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You will probably be able to drive them with an unblanced cable that shorts pins #1&3 of the XLR together, and this goes to the ground tab of the RCA plug. Pin #2 of the XLR goes to the center "hot" pin of the RCA. It is actually cleaner from a sound quality standpoint if you can use unbalanced connections. The only use for balanced connections is if you run very long cables, like over 50 feet or so in a hostile environment around AC lines and motors.

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#27137 - 12/20/04 12:58 PM Re: 950 with active speakers
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
I like soundhound's idea here if you are going to be using XLR's at the speaker. The biggest concern I have with the injectors is the added complexity of the signal path - introducing additional devices into the path inevitably offers more opportunities for signal degradation, and I don't know how transparent the injectors would really be. Powered speakers are a very logical approach, so the basic idea is excellent, but unbalanced may be the cleaner approach.
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#27138 - 12/27/04 11:35 AM Re: 950 with active speakers
Osmo Offline
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Registered: 01/11/02
Posts: 4
Loc: Helsinki , Finland
Aaron,

You can use Genelec DI8A Active Balancer between 950 and active speakers, high only 1U.

Genelec DI8A


Osmo

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#27139 - 01/04/05 05:52 PM Re: 950 with active speakers
Az Offline
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Registered: 10/20/04
Posts: 34
Loc: Atlanta GA
Here's a related question:

I'm also using active main speakers with an external crossover/DAC. Will the digital output from the 905 provide a stereo signal from all sources directly to the external crossover/DAC? I'm assuming this is cake for digital sources, but what about analog?
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#27140 - 01/04/05 06:32 PM Re: 950 with active speakers
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The 950's digital output is, from what I understand, purely a "pass-through" of a digital input from a source such as a DVD player, CD player, satellite receiver, etc. Unless I'm very much mistaken, the digital outputs are not intended as digital pre-outs (so no volume control, no bass management, etc.). Such a pre-out would require some unique processing - the digital signals leaving the processor would need to be re-encoded into some format such as Dolby Digital (in order to get multiple channels on a single output) or PCM (for a stereo output) so that they could be passed to an external device.
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#27141 - 01/04/05 07:04 PM Re: 950 with active speakers
Az Offline
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Registered: 10/20/04
Posts: 34
Loc: Atlanta GA
I've got a volume control on my CD player, so it will work fine with PCM music.

For everything else, I guess it'll just have to be analog.

Thanks!
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