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#9808 - 12/30/07 08:43 PM 7.1 sountracks on blu ray movies when?
gooomz Offline
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Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 258
Loc: new york
when are 7.1 soundtracks going to be released on bluray movies? because if there not going to be available any time soon then for my future HT setup in a 20x25 room would you guys go 5.1 or 7.1?

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#9809 - 12/30/07 09:31 PM Re: 7.1 sountracks on blu ray movies when?
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
Theatrical releases are still being handled as 5.1 in the majority of cases, so producing 6.1 or 7.1 mixes involves repeating a lot of effort - as a result, it is still fairly rare to see 6.1/7.1 very often. There have been a few ( this AVS thread specifically mentions at least one 7.1 and one 6.1 mix, out of a sampling of more than sixty titles), but it's likely to remain hit-or-miss for the time being. On the other hand, there are still some very good matrix processing modes that can generate pretty respectable rear surround data on the fly (Pro Logic IIx being the obvious and most common example).

Either way, I would select the speaker layout based on room layout, not on source material availability. If your seating layout isn't conducive to a 7.1 setup, you'd be better off with 5.1 and let the system downmix the rear surround signals into the side surrounds. A 20'x25' room is certainly large enough to support a 7.1 speaker setup in theory, but seating placement is a significant factor. If you have seating directly against the rear wall, that is not going to be a great situation for 7.1. In my 23'x17' space, the couch is 5' or 6' off the back wall (essentially a third of the way across the room's short dimension). My direct-radiating side surround speakers are in line with it on the side walls and are only slightly farther away than the dipole rear surrounds. This arrangement has worked quite nicely for me.
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#9810 - 12/30/07 10:10 PM Re: 7.1 sountracks on blu ray movies when?
butchgo Offline
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Registered: 06/22/07
Posts: 373
Loc: Southern Oregon coast
goomz,

I ran a 5.1 system for about three years before finally adding the rear surrounds. My couch is only slightly forward of the rear surrounds but the difference in overall performance was definitely worth it. IMHO it completes the soundstage for any 5.1 source by using PLIIx to morph the rear surrounds. I believe that the LOTR movies are in 6.1 Dolby EX so you should really hear the difference there.

All of my CD listening is in two channel and my SACD is set up 5.1 but I am using my rear surrounds instead of the normal surrounds so the depth of the soundstage is much deeper.

I would suggest just going 7.1 now and then you are ready for might just be coming in the future.
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#9811 - 01/01/08 06:00 PM Re: 7.1 sountracks on blu ray movies when?
butchgo Offline
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Registered: 06/22/07
Posts: 373
Loc: Southern Oregon coast
Check out the audio format on this Blu-ray review of Pam's Labyrinth.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1181/panslabyrinth.html
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Epson 3500 3D projector
93" Carl's Place Flexiwhite DIY screen
Outlaw 976 Pre/Pro
Outlaw 7500 for center and surrounds
2- Emotiva XPA-1Ls for LF/RF duty
2- Outlaw LFM-1 EX subs
Oppo BDP-105 Blu-ray/DVD/SACD player
Outlaw LCR (Snell Labs) for center channel duty
Tekton Lore monitors L/R
4- Emotiva ERD-1s surround speakers
Monster HTS3600MKII power center

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#9812 - 01/01/08 07:20 PM Re: 7.1 sountracks on blu ray movies when?
sehnzeleid Offline
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Registered: 04/15/07
Posts: 71
Loc: USA
There's a number of Blu-rays with 7.1 audio available, maybe 10 or so.

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