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#96826 - 08/27/17 01:32 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: ppellegrini]
renov8r Offline
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Registered: 11/13/02
Posts: 336
Loc: Illinois
The recent review by Jim Milton of the RR2160 in Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity clearly references the 976 -- http://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/recei...eceiver-review/
Quote:
I had to spend the afternoon with Peter and listen to their new THX-certified sub and new (soon to be released into the Wild) home theater processor.


Impatient folks can criticize the way that estimates of shipping dates are made but the fact is in today's consumer electronics marketplace it is increasingly common to have deal with production glitches. Even multi-billion dollar firms can't avoid -- https://www.macrumors.com/2017/08/01/apple-still-unable-to-meet-airpods-demand/
AND
https://www.androidcentral.com/editors-desk-google-horrible-supply-chains

If two of the most well funded firms ON THIS PLANET have issues I am willing to cut Outlaw, which even in the most generous estimate has a value orders of magnitude smaller, a whole lot of slack...

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#96827 - 08/27/17 07:13 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: renov8r]
J.H. Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 04/03/06
Posts: 43
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By renov8r
The recent review by Jim Milton of the RR2160 in Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity clearly references the 976 -- http://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/recei...eceiver-review/
Quote:
I had to spend the afternoon with Peter and listen to their new THX-certified sub and new (soon to be released into the Wild) home theater processor.


Impatient folks can criticize the way that estimates of shipping dates are made but the fact is in today's consumer electronics marketplace it is increasingly common to have deal with production glitches. Even multi-billion dollar firms can't avoid -- https://www.macrumors.com/2017/08/01/apple-still-unable-to-meet-airpods-demand/
AND
https://www.androidcentral.com/editors-desk-google-horrible-supply-chains

If two of the most well funded firms ON THIS PLANET have issues I am willing to cut Outlaw, which even in the most generous estimate has a value orders of magnitude smaller, a whole lot of slack...



I agree with everything you said, but I also don't fault anyone for moving on at this point either. I am not buying till December as a Christmas gift to me, but if it ain't out by then, it probably ain't coming out at all. Only time will tell.

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#96830 - 08/28/17 07:05 AM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: renov8r]
975 destroyer Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 09/07/15
Posts: 129
Loc: Georgia, US of A!
Originally Posted By renov8r
The recent review by Jim Milton of the RR2160 in Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity clearly references the 976 -- http://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/recei...eceiver-review/
Quote:
I had to spend the afternoon with Peter and listen to their new THX-certified sub and new (soon to be released into the Wild) home theater processor.


Impatient folks can criticize the way that estimates of shipping dates are made but the fact is in today's consumer electronics marketplace it is increasingly common to have deal with production glitches. Even multi-billion dollar firms can't avoid -- https://www.macrumors.com/2017/08/01/apple-still-unable-to-meet-airpods-demand/
AND
https://www.androidcentral.com/editors-desk-google-horrible-supply-chains

If two of the most well funded firms ON THIS PLANET have issues I am willing to cut Outlaw, which even in the most generous estimate has a value orders of magnitude smaller, a whole lot of slack...

ditto

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#96834 - 08/28/17 12:32 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: ppellegrini]
Owl's_Warder Offline
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Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 894
Loc: Grants Pass, OR
Yep. It sounds to me like it's very close to being released. I'm lucky in that I'm not really in the market, just keenly interested in seeing how well it's received on release. I might be tempted to upgrade if it ticks off enough boxes. smile

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#96835 - 08/28/17 01:48 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: renov8r]
TCat Offline
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Registered: 03/25/17
Posts: 22
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By renov8r
Impatient folks can criticize the way that estimates of shipping dates are made but the fact is in today's consumer electronics marketplace it is increasingly common to have deal with production glitches.

Wow, poseur much? It's not impatient to give up when they're this late and haven't been updating status... and when you're waiting to actually build the system.

For some context, the 976 was announced on 01/24/17. Try holding your breath for more than seven months, with no recent updates!

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#96836 - 08/28/17 02:22 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: ppellegrini]
Outlaw Ben Offline

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Registered: 10/31/13
Posts: 241
TCat, Since then we have talked about the unit a couple times. One update can even be seen on page 3 of this thread, dated June '17:
Originally Posted By admin
Fellow Outlaws:

We know that you are anxious to get your hands on the forthcoming Model 976, and we are just as anxious to get it to you.

That said, given the date, it is obvious that it will ship a bit later than we had hoped. There is a continual battle to find the balance between pre-announcing new products, as we did for the Model 976 versus waiting to announce them until the are ready to ship, as we did with the RR 2160 and Ultra X13. Regardless, whenever we announce a new product it is very important to us that any new product ships only when it is ready, not before. We're not quite at that point yet for the Model 976

It's been said that it's "The first 99% is easy. It's the last 1% that is the hardest." That is a good summary of where we are. We have units under test that are completely functional and which deliver outstanding audio and video performance. We've completed work with Room EQ Wizard that is optimized for the Model 976. We have the parts staged and ready for production start. That's the "99%".

Unfortunately, there is that remaining 1%. There are a few remaining issues that have cropped up that we are simply not comfortable having in a production product. None, by themselves, are fatal. However, collectively they would prevent the Model 976 from meeting our expectations. Yes, it will take until after our goal of "before the end of spring" to work all of this out. Since some of these things are interdependent it is to say how long it will take, but it shouldn't be that long.

Again, thanks for your support, patience and understanding as we work to bring you the product you expect and deserve.

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#96840 - 08/29/17 12:59 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: ppellegrini]
Owl's_Warder Offline
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Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 894
Loc: Grants Pass, OR
Thanks, Ben. Saved me from having to look that post up! That post and the more recent comment in the RR2160 review are the two biggest reasons I feel it's almost here.

Nobody faults you for pulling the trigger on something else, TCat. When you're ready, of course you're going to buy what's available. However, saying there've been no recent updates is not accurate.

On a side note, can we maintain some civility up in here? There's really no need for name calling.

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#96841 - 08/29/17 01:57 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: ppellegrini]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Getting it correct right out of the gate is the most important thing.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#96843 - 08/29/17 07:45 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: ppellegrini]
J.H. Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 04/03/06
Posts: 43
Loc: NJ
I'm planning to get a 976 in December as I have said. Right now I'm using my older Yamaha receiver as the processor to control my Parasound amp. How much difference in sound quality will it be going to a dedicated HT processor over a receiver? I can't wait to see and read reviews of the model 976.

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#96844 - 08/29/17 09:49 PM Re: Model 976 - myth or real? [Re: ppellegrini]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Depending on the vintage of your Yamaha and its abilities to translate codecs it could be a very noticeable difference.
_________________________
Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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