#96465 - 04/01/17 09:27 AM
Re: 976 Anticipation Thread
[Re: Hank]
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Desperado
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It would depend which device has the better sounding DACs I would guess.
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93" Carl's Place Flexiwhite DIY screen
Outlaw 976 Pre/Pro
Outlaw 7500 for LCR & L/R surrounds
1- Emotiva Mini X-A100 for rear surrounds
2- Outlaw LFM-1 EX subs
Oppo BDP-105 Blu-ray/DVD/SACD player
Outlaw LCR (Snell Labs) for center channel duty
Tekton Lore monitors L/R
4- Emotiva ERD-1s surround speakers
Monster HTS3600MKII power center
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#96466 - 04/01/17 09:45 AM
Re: 976 Anticipation Thread
[Re: Hank]
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Desperado
Registered: 04/08/08
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Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
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Some people love all those cables behind their gear and others prefer the simple HDMI solution, but it really comes down to flexibility and which device (source or AVR) has the best electronics. For instance, I have the model 990 which doesn't support all the new audio codecs but can be fed from my OPPO BDP through the 7.1 analog inputs so it can function in a home theater pretty well with the OPPO doing the decoding. In my current system I use HDMI for simplicity and the processor has better DACs than the OPPO.
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Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner
TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv
Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner
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#96467 - 04/01/17 11:36 PM
Re: 976 Anticipation Thread
[Re: zypo]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/14/01
Posts: 161
Loc: Garland,Tx. USA
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Can someone explain to me the benefit of having 7.1ch inputs? Even on an Oppo with 7.1 outputs, you would probably just use an hdmi cable for the 976 inputs from the player. With devices such that minidsp makes, you will probably have the minidsp AFTER the audio has been decoded... (am I wrong?)
I am glad the 976 will have 7.1 inputs so I can use the reference Sabre dacs from my Oppo 105 or the future Oppo 205. SACDs and DVD audio discs sound better to me using the analog outs.
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Paradigm Studio CC-490v5-center
Paradigm Studio 10v5- side surrounds,Monitor surround 3v7-bck surr
Oppo UDP-205/LG 65C6
Outlaw 976 prepro/ Emotiva BasX A-700 amp
Power Sound Audio 15S
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#96496 - 04/11/17 04:36 PM
Re: 976 Anticipation Thread
[Re: Hank]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/03/06
Posts: 43
Loc: NJ
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I am just thrilled by a discovery I just made that will allow me to buy the new Model 976! I used to do Separates all the time, but I moved and just thought it'd be easier if I went back to a receiver. I forgot I had an old 5 channel Parasound 5125 amp. I just found it, and now will be going back to separates with the model 976. I could not be more thrilled! I have no need or care for Atmos or DTS-X so this is perfect. I have for speakers Definitive Technology Studio monitor 65 mains and center, that's not a typo yes I have a studio monitor for a center channel and it sounds great. I have SM 55 surrounds and an SVS PB-1000.
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#96512 - 04/14/17 07:27 PM
Re: 976 Anticipation Thread
[Re: Stephen B]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 09/07/15
Posts: 129
Loc: Georgia, US of A!
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If the 10 band PEQ is 10 bands per channel with user definable iso* centers* it should be everything one needs. YUP! * and that is a true definition of a PEQ. In which case, I will buy one with my first military retirement check in the fall. If one does not mind doing things manually of course. I have never heard any of the automated room correction options get it perfect so why not get our learn on to do it manually. YUP!! If doing the eq myself keeps a good sq processor at a sub $1,000 price then sign me up. EQ is not Voodoo for the normal home user. We need to stop treating it as such. YUP!!!
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Outlaw Audio 976
Samsung BD player, Phillips CD chgr, Dish DVR, Firestick
Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
BJC 10 ga - LCR mids*, inside & out
8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out
LR: Tri-amped Polk RTi A7
Rotel RB980s -> woofers; Rotel RB981s -> mids w/phase plugs & tweeters
CC: bi-amped Polk CSi A6 -> Rotel RB981
SWs: Sunfire & 4 Audio Pros - LFE True Sig; 4 Evidence - 1 @ ea corner
Surrounds: Rotel RB981 -> Polk RTi A3
Power Conditioning & Distribution:
3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman MP-20s
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#96518 - 04/15/17 06:49 PM
Re: 976 Anticipation Thread
[Re: Hank]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 01/15/15
Posts: 214
Loc: East Texas
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You are going to give me an inflated ego if you keep agreeing with me like this Tony.
I see no good reason why the PEQ could not be used to great effect.
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#96519 - 04/15/17 10:08 PM
Re: 976 Anticipation Thread
[Re: Stephen B]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 09/07/15
Posts: 129
Loc: Georgia, US of A!
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I see no good reason why the PEQ could not be used to great effect. ditto, Stephen you're the man! In the right hands, and it ain't rocket science, each channel having its own PEQ should fix most any issue except bad acoustics.
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Samsung 60" LED
Outlaw Audio 976
Samsung BD player, Phillips CD chgr, Dish DVR, Firestick
Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
BJC 10 ga - LCR mids*, inside & out
8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out
LR: Tri-amped Polk RTi A7
Rotel RB980s -> woofers; Rotel RB981s -> mids w/phase plugs & tweeters
CC: bi-amped Polk CSi A6 -> Rotel RB981
SWs: Sunfire & 4 Audio Pros - LFE True Sig; 4 Evidence - 1 @ ea corner
Surrounds: Rotel RB981 -> Polk RTi A3
Power Conditioning & Distribution:
3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman MP-20s
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#96522 - 04/16/17 10:24 AM
Re: 976 Anticipation Thread
[Re: 975 destroyer]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 01/15/15
Posts: 214
Loc: East Texas
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each channel having its own PEQ should fix most any issue except bad acoustics.
I see REW being a bigger problem for most users than the PEQ will ever be. I have not fooled around with an audio analyzer in years so have been reviewing the options.
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#96523 - 04/16/17 12:41 PM
Re: 976 Anticipation Thread
[Re: Hank]
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Desperado
Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
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REW looks like a very encompassing program which will allow users to tweak their systems to compensate for any room deficiencies but...it also may take significant effort playing with a system. For those who love to tweak and adjust it will be the equivalent of a turntable.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner
TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv
Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner
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#96526 - 04/17/17 08:01 AM
Re: 976 Anticipation Thread
[Re: Hank]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 01/15/15
Posts: 214
Loc: East Texas
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I can see the analyzer part of doing PEQ being difficult for many people. The last analyzer I used was a hand held unit so hqve no experience with a pc based system.
Is anyone here using REW (or similar) what is involved regarding the hardware necessary? I know there is more involved than connecting a microphone to a computer. Thanks
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