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#95854 - 06/26/16 05:24 PM Re: New processor? [Re: XenonMan]
975 destroyer Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 09/07/15
Posts: 129
Loc: Georgia, US of A!
Originally Posted By: XenonMan
...since Outlaw hasn't named it, I will. I am going to call it the Phoenix...
Good one. I'll be a beta tester given the chance though I doubt my TV will be up to the 4K task. But I place SQ/reproduction right up w/video & I'm confident my system will easily meet that challange.

Side note: Rotel's latest $3500 offering, out almost a year now, doesn't do Atmos or 4K either. Their 5th, and finally successful, attempt at HDMI. I mention this because I was a disciple through two of their (sans HDMI) processors for 6 years - HDMI versions way behind the industry, not to forget hearing nightmarish stories about HDMI handshake issues, & fail firmware upgrades.

That is until I became a "Gun slinger!" Way better SQ, way less cabling, and NEW to boot!

Later, Tony
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Outlaw Audio 976
Samsung BD player, Phillips CD chgr, Dish DVR, Firestick

Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside; CC outside
BJC 10 ga - LCR mids*, inside & out
8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside & out

LR: Tri-amped Polk RTi A7
Rotel RB980s -> woofers; Rotel RB981s -> mids w/phase plugs & tweeters
CC: bi-amped Polk CSi A6 -> Rotel RB981
SWs: Sunfire & 4 Audio Pros - LFE True Sig; 4 Evidence - 1 @ ea corner
Surrounds: Rotel RB981 -> Polk RTi A3
Power Conditioning & Distribution:
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#95888 - 07/14/16 12:07 PM Re: New processor? [Re: XenonMan]
Owl's_Warder Offline
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Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 894
Loc: Grants Pass, OR
Originally Posted By: XenonMan
Blue Jeans cables and Monoprice have great prices on good cables of all sorts. BJC goes the extra mile and explains the difference between the different versions of their HDMI cables. I use them for all my interconnects and HDMI cables. If you are experiencing dropouts on HDMI and the cable length is less than about 25 feet I would look at the connection itself. HDMI is real sensitive to losing its mechanical connection when you bump the cable or move equipment or the cabinet. I try to support my cables from above to lessen the pull on the cable. If you have thick stiff cables it is more of a problem.


Thanks for the suggestions. I've ordered a nice short Blue Jeans HDMI cable. Between what is likely a better quality cable than the generic Amazon Basics and the much shorter length, I'm hopeful the random dropouts will abate.

Check it out, Outlaws! I'm upgrading cabling so I can be ready to beta test the new Phoenix for you... grin

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#95892 - 07/14/16 02:20 PM Re: New processor? [Re: XenonMan]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
At this point I would refer to it as "the old Phoenix"!
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Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#95894 - 07/15/16 12:22 AM Re: New processor? [Re: XenonMan]
JDB001 Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 09/10/01
Posts: 51
Loc: Seneca, SC
"Holy Mac-real Outlaws!!" It has been another year+, or about 2 1/2 years I/We have been waiting. Now I know we have all been late with product over the years - maybe 6 months, 8 months, but never this late. "I need, no you need" to deliver the box. I am having handshake problems with the Samsung K8500 to Sony 350ES 4K projector. Samsung has updated the firmware a couple times, but I am not sure what they are tweaking. (Sony does not help by putting HDCP only on Input 2.) Overall, the goofiness of splitting the audio over to the 975 and video (+audio) directly to the projector has got to stop. We need the miracle glue in the new Outlaw 1010 (Model 1K with 10 channel processing) surround processor to cradle the digital streams and make the world right again. You guys are the "old style" wizard - you understand how to wrangle electrons, and if anyone can do it will be you. Tell me you are about ready to pop the news we are waiting for and start shipping the new box before Labor day.


Edited by JDB001 (07/15/16 12:24 AM)

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#95896 - 07/15/16 08:52 AM Re: New processor? [Re: XenonMan]
TL5 Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 03/25/15
Posts: 30
Yes, Outlaw....time for another update - this time with specs & pics!

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#95918 - 07/25/16 05:22 PM Re: New processor? [Re: XenonMan]
candyman Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 76
Loc: Beaverton
*ping*

Requesting a pre-pro update.


Edited by candyman (07/25/16 05:29 PM)
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#95925 - 07/27/16 08:08 PM Re: New processor? [Re: XenonMan]
Strider53 Offline
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Registered: 09/06/11
Posts: 38
Loc: Detroit
Hey Candyman,
A pre-pro update with specs and pictures, would be nice. Don't think it will happen until the Outlaws are good and ready (when the Pre-Pro is ready). But we can always hope!
How do you like the Yamaha?

Jeff

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#95934 - 08/01/16 08:36 PM Re: New processor? [Re: XenonMan]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
I guess since I named it I have to come up with the update too!

Let's see:
The new Phoenix processor is well designed and will have all the bells and whistles that anyone could ever need, when it is released. The Phoenix is so far advanced that we are still trying to develop some whama-dyne gizmos to perform all of the functions we have promised. Unfortunately there isn't enough processing power available at this time to process the processes, so we have to once again delay any news until someone, somewhere finally shames us into revealing the smallest details about it's release dates or maybe a picture of some nebulous circuit board or array of buttons and lights. We realize that many customers have lost interest in the never ending process of processing this processor. Bearing this in mind, we will be processing a whole new line of processors, processed using other processes. During this process we will process any specific requests for information using our normal process. We expect this process to take a little longer than our usual process of processing processors so relax and let the process, process.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#95935 - 08/02/16 12:57 PM Re: New processor? [Re: XenonMan]
NRBQLou Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 122
Loc: Denver, CO USA
That's as good as any other update I've seen. Thanks for the vague info! smile smile
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Roku Streaming Stick +
Music Hall mm5.1 table, Ortofon 2M Blue Cartridge, Cambridge Audio 640P Phono Preamp, Pro-Ject Speed Box
Belkin Pure AV Power Conditioner
Audioquest Type 8 speaker cable, Monoprice speaker Cable
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#95936 - 08/02/16 07:13 PM Re: New processor? [Re: Strider53]
candyman Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 76
Loc: Beaverton
I'm happy with the CX-A5000. It has more features than I currently need and enough to future proof me for quite a while. It was an upgrade feature-wise from my long-time, trusty Outlaw 990. Plus, I always had a soft spot for Yamaha processors, ever since my college roommate purchased the Yamaha DSP-100 to accentuate his JBL studio monitors--we sounded GOOD in the dorm.

I wanted to upgrade the 990 to another Outlaw product but 997 and 998/978 unfortunately didn't make it to market, and the 975--while very nice--didn't quite tick enough check boxes. I'm hoping the Outlaw Phoenix (tm-XenonMan) pre-pro releases and does well.
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Outlaw 7500
Oppo BDP-83
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Surround: Martin Logan Fresco i via Outlaw OAWA3
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