The Anthem AVM-60 will be 3K, the new Marantz 7702 MkII will be about 2K....where does that leave the Outlaw? With Outlaw having stated it will contain "premium, audiophile grade components throughout the design", I'm really curious how they'll price it. I'm willing to pay extra for performance, but not so much for features. I have a Marantz 8801 right now - while it does a great job there are so many features on it I don't use - like the extra zones, video processing, Airplay and streaming options. I would hope the new Outlaw pre/pro just excels at the basics, and doesn't bother with some of these extra "features". Maybe that will keep the price down a bit?

I will be surprised if the Outlaw processor comes in at <$2000, especially since it will have both Atmos and DTS-X.

I agree Xenonman - I too would be surprised if Outlaw can price it much less than 2K. That's what makes it interesting: The Marantz 7702 MKII occupies that price range, with every feature under the sun. I hope the Outlaw uses at least XT32 for room correction, or maybe Dirac. Hopefully it has a great analog section & DAC's.

I really so hope it does come in around $2K but I am not holding my breath.
I am thinking closer to $3K.

I'd love it if they can come in around 1.5k or even 1k. I'm sure I'm dreaming, though. I want to upgrade the 975, not because I'm unhappy with it, but so I can get more inputs and start stepping toward ATMOS, etc. Already prepping the better half for spending the money, but 2k+ is going to be a tough sell for me to make when we bought the 975 just not that long ago. I mean, we had the 1050 for about a decade before upgrading it so...

I can't help but think that there the leadership of Outlaw very much has a score to settle with some "North American based audio electronics firm" and will work very hard to come to market at price that will not go unrecognized for value...

TL5 there is no mention in the original announcement in regards to any room correction being designed into the new processor. There have been some questions about what would be used and how it will interact with ATMOS and DTS-X but at this time we do not know what, if any, room correction will be used.

While there was no mention of room correction, Outlaw refers to it as "high end". To me, this means at least xt32, if not Dirac. After having experienced how xt32 works in my Marantz AV8801, I wouldn't consider any pre/pro without a good room correction solution.

I am not trying to be objectionable or just stir the pot but if your idea of "high end" means it must have room correction I suggest you read what guys like Nelson Pass a PhD Walt Jung have to say on the subject. $300.00 AVR's from Best Buy include room correction. Buy the chapest AVR with pre outs as the amp has as much to do with overall sound as the pre/pro. A great amp can make up for a multitude of sins upstream in the audio chain.


To me "high end" means the highest quality parts in the signal path as can be afforded for the price point. High end is much much about the electronics as it is about the gimmicks.

I will trade room correction (that anyone can do themselves) for 1% parts in the form of non inductive resistors and film caps. Take the money from the room correction licensing and spend it on better power supplies and rear panel connectors. Outlaw needs to continue on the path that has made them successful.

The average person shopping for an Atmos/DTS pre/pro is shopping Marantz, Anthem, Yamaha, etc. They all include room correction. Outlaw knows this and will include a form of it on the new pre/pro I bet. We aren't talking "purist" 2 channel audio here.