Originally Posted By: gonk
Before I run through this, I'll offer a couple things about analog audio performance.

The OPPO Blu-ray Disc players (BDP-83, BDP-93, BDP-103) have consistently had analog sections that over-performed. The BDP-83's analog performance was better than the Onkyo 885P, at least in my opinion, even though the 885P had Audyssey processing in the loop. The BDP-93 offered some tweaks that preserved and possibly enhanced that performance, and from what I've heard the BDP-103 has further refined the audio quality. Since the Model 990 matched up well sonically with the 885P, that puts these players at or above par with the Model 990.

The "base" players are already good enough that you need a good quality signal path to get the full benefit. The upgraded OPPO players (BDP-83SE, BDP-95, and BDP-105) take that performance and kick it up a notch. You really need a good system to hear the benefits. I consider my system to be just enough to pull that off, although I will admit that in both systems (living room stereo setup and den home theater setup) the player is certainly the strongest link in the analog audio chain. OPPO tech support and sales support will likely steer most people toward the BDP-93/BDP-103 because of this, even in some cases where I think the upgraded player would make sense. Because the Model 990 applies an A/D/A conversion to the 7.1 analog output, there can be an argument made in favor of staying with the base player - it still represents an upgrade (albeit a less significant one) in DAC section, and there is less potential concern about what impact the A/D/A conversion for bass management has on the final signal.

(And I really need to get my BDP-105 review set up in HTML... It's sitting there, typed up, sort of proofread, waiting for formatting and a few pictures...)

Originally Posted By: FAUguy
The reason I want to get the Oppo BDP-95 blu-ray player is because it supports playing BD discs over Component at 1080i. All newer players are removing the Component due to the "analog sunset".

Since my Outlaw 990 is currently acting as the DAC, being fed by the CD changer, cable box, and DVD player, if I get the Oppo BDP-95, it would basically replace my CD and DVD player.

Naturally, I'd use the newer DACs in the Oppo BDP-95 instead of the Outlaw 990. This would means I'd have to connect the two Stereo RCA outs from the Oppo to the CD RCA inputs on the 990 (for use when playing CDs), and the 5.1 RCA outs from the Oppo to the 990 (for movies/multichannel).

What I'd like to know (before I buy the Oppo) is if anyone else has connected a BDP-95/93 to the Outlaw 990 in this type of set-up. If so, are there recommendations or advise that I should pay attention to? I'm hoping the CD playback on the Oppo BDP-95 with its 32-bit DACs sound better than the internal DACs on the Outlaw 990.


I'd start by steering you toward the BDP-93/Outlaw setup tips I wrote a while back. They work equally well for the BDP-95, and there's a page there for the Model 990.

One thing to consider: you could use the 7.1 analog connection for both multichannel and stereo sources, avoiding the need for separate stereo connections. For the BDP-93, that's the only way to go (no dedicated stereo analog output), and it would work fine. Not saying you should do it this way, and it wouldn't hurt to go ahead and hook up the stereo outputs just so you can experiment with it, but you may find yourself getting into the habit of using the multichannel analog output only.

As for video processing, the industry has been pushing us all toward digital video output since probably the middle of the last decade. The BDP-93/95 were the last OPPO players to offer component video output because of the analog sunset rules. You can go back as far as their DVD players, though, and see the trend toward digital output. The only player to support scaling via component output was the 970HD, and that only using hacked firmware. The BDP-93/95 will output HD content at 720p or 1080i resolution, but it won't scale other content to those resolutions. Most users are going to be better off using HDMI output for video. You might think about how critical your need for component output is - a BDP-103 could be a less expensive option with some extra benefits (new features, etc.).

Originally Posted By: FAUguy
I read the other post on here about the bass management while using an Oppo connected to a 990. It basically said to have the Oppo set to Large/full-range for all the speakers, and continue to have the 990 do the bass management and speaker distance. This makes sense to me, as I have the 990's cross-over set to Small for all speakers, 40Hz Front, 60Hz Center, and 80Hz rear. This way everything below those frequencies are sent to the Sub. I did experiment with 60Hz and 80Hz for the fronts, but since the B&W 804S are good full range speakers, they actually sounded best set to 40Hz cross-over. Since the HTM3S center doesn't get quite as low, I have it set to 60Hz.

Thanks again!


With the Model 990, it will apply bass management to the multichannel analog input unless you have all speakers set to "large". That means it is best to disable bass management in the player so that you only do bass management once.


Thanks for the info and help!

I did end up buying a used Oppo BDP-95 on eBay over the weekend for $820, so hopefully by this time next week I'll have it here.

Since my speakers (B&W 804S, HTM3S), amp (7500), and cables (MIT) are pretty good, that was one of the reasons why I wanted to go with the Oppo 95, to get better sound quality from my CD collection, not to mention it being a universal player.

You said that on the 990's 7.1 inputs that it applies A/D/A conversion, I was not aware of this. That means that if the 95 is connected to the 990 in this manner for BD movies to muti-chanel audio discs, than the 990 is doing additional A/D/A, I guess for bass management? But for regular 2ch CD output from the 95 using the dedicated stereo RCA out, and connected to the 990's CD RCA input, does it still do extra A/D/A, or will the "Bypass Mode" circumvent this? I do wish the 990 had 2ch XLR inputs like the 7500 amp. I guess if I wanted to, when only playing CDs, I could disconnect the XLRs going between the 7500 and 990, and connect the Oppo 95 directly to the 7500 amp - though this would not allow use of the sub.

The other reason I went with the Oppo 95 was for the Component video out, since my 2001 Panasonic Tube HDTV only has (two) Component inputs for 480p/1080i. I wanted to be able to play BD discs at 1080i. I understand that if the discs have a certain "flag" that the player will downconvert to 480p over Component, unless you "back up" the discs your self and remove the "flag". I wasn't aware that the Oppo 95 didn't upconvert DVDs to 1080i over component. Does it upconvert DVDs when HDMI is used? In that connection guide, you mentioned the HD Fury product. I'm wondering if that may be best for connecting to the Oppo 95's HDMI output, then have the HD Fury connected to the TV via Component. My only concern with that is any degrading or altering that the HD Fury does in the HDMI-to-Component process. The HD Furry 3 is $249, but the version 4 is $399 since it supports 3D, which I don't need, even though the video processor looks to be better.

Whenever I replace my Panasonic Tube HDTV, I also have to get a new entertainment cabinet, as it could not even fit a 42" widescreen. So with a new TV + cabinet, it would cost more than I could do for a while, so hopefully this Panasonic will last a few more years. Maybe by then OLEDs will come down in price!