I feel bad for the Outlaw guys but man they have had some really poor business practices of late. Even before all this happened with the competitor, they still basically refused to give updates except for maybe twice a year. There were people posting on here that they would never use Outlaw again and others that remained loyal that were begging for some kind of update and still couldn't get one for months at a time. I posted in the ICBM-2 forum months ago asking for something as far as news goes on this, and I got no response, and still haven't. I'm in the restaurant business and appreciate and need every customer I can get. I sell $4 hamburgers. A customer for these guys spends $500 to several thousand dollars. I can't believe Outlaw were letting customers walk out their door all over a simple monthly update. I also wonder why they can't get their product's information that would allow them to go to another manufacturer. I don't believe in silly conspiracy theories and all that. It seems to me that these guys just suck at rolling out new products and sucks even worse at picking partners. However, I think a simpler pre-pro will serve them well. XT32 is nice, but Behringer makes high quality parametric eq's for cheap and Room Eq Wizard is free at Home Theater Shack. For those worried about the dual sub eq'ing capabilities of XT32, a Marantz SR5005, a 2 channel Behringer Feedback Destroyer, the microphone and sound card needed for measurement, can be had for well under $1,000. Not to mention the education you'll receive from manually tweaking you're system. The 978 would have been well beyond that price point. You can also get 2 Velodyne SMS-1's and a Marantz SR5005 or Denon, for around $1500. Don't know what the price point was going to be on the 978 but I couldn't imagine it being cheaper than that. Modern pre-pro's seem to be the big leagues of home theater manufacturing and Outlaw obviously isn't there yet.