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#89780 - 03/22/12 03:00 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: Hank]
bobm Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ritz2

That's cool. I can't imagine how long the dev process would be if they hadn't left all those "complex" features out that have been integrated with even low budget AVRs from a raft of other manufacturers for quite some time now. smile


Agreed Ritz2.

Originally Posted By: AusTexRocker
The Outlaws promoted this from the begining as a "simple" processor with a focus on SQ. Well, simple it has proven not to be, but I am holding out for that mind bending SQ that we all love from previous Outlaw products. At the right price point, that is something I will still buy.


I agree, I would never use many of those extra features, but I would like to own a simple Pre/Pro that focused on SQ and contained a unique feature set that catered to the poor man Audiophile. The key is the right price point which I think should be around $1K? Much more than that and the competition closes as Ritx2 suggests. Just think if Audyssey releases an update (say MultEQ XT64?), we will see MultEQ XT32 below the $1K mark.

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Edited by bobm (03/22/12 03:41 PM)

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#89781 - 03/22/12 03:12 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: Ritz2]
jam Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ritz2
It basically seems to be the same as MultEQ XT with a higher resolution. It will be interesting to hear how it compares to the Emotiva Tact implementation.


If you look at the sparse MulEQ XT32 documentation available on Audyssey's website, they mention that XT32 is basically the same technology as XT but with 512X more filter resolution than their basic MultEQ 2EQ technology, i.e. 32X more resolution over plain XT for satellites and 4X more resolution for subwoofers. They also state that XT32 now has more than 10K control points (filter points). Tact Audio's digital room correction systems are also known to be over 10K filter points over the entire audio range (20-20KHz). It's been a criticism by Tact Audio aficionados and some audiophiles that Audyssey's MultEQ XT has an amount of filter points that's too low and somewhat insufficient. But I think maybe we should continue this topic on other threads like the: "Outlaw model 978 vs. Emotiva XMC1".

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#89782 - 03/22/12 03:18 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: Hank]
jam Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hank
Bob wrote:
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I bet one of the new products will be a speaker featuring H-PAS.

Yes, one will be a "sound bar" with H-PAS. As Peter told me, this is public knowledge because he mentioned it in an Atlantic Technology press conference at CEDIA. Peter demoed H-PAS speakers at CES2010 and the bass from them was impressive indeed.


Interesting, Atlantic Technology is registered as an exhibitor at this weekend's Montreal audio exposition (Canada's largest audio show). I'll see what I can find there and report back.

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#89785 - 03/22/12 07:59 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: jam]
H Stevens Offline
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bobm, looks like you'll be getting a lot of use out of your Yamaha. By the time the 978 arrives, you might be too attached to pull it out of your rack.

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#89788 - 03/22/12 09:23 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: Hank]
Kevin C Brown Offline
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XT32 was announced Aug of 2010:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=127943

I'm a little surprised that it hasn't ended up in more products than it has. IOW, I don't think it's going to filter down to any more cheaper products than it already has.

Conjecture about something from Marantz with XT32 has been rampant for quite a while. But AFAIK, there has been nothing concrete that there ever will be a successor to the AV7005.


Edited by Kevin C Brown (03/22/12 09:25 PM)
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#89791 - 03/23/12 07:25 AM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: H Stevens]
bobm Offline
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Originally Posted By: H Stevens
bobm, looks like you'll be getting a lot of use out of your Yamaha. By the time the 978 arrives, you might be too attached to pull it out of your rack.


It’s been an eye opener for sure on many fronts. But it is always fun to think about new gear. smile

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#89792 - 03/23/12 10:10 AM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: bobm]
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Did Peter ever make the other update this week? If so, I can't seem to find it.
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#89793 - 03/23/12 10:24 AM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: legivens]
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Originally Posted By: legivens
Did Peter ever make the other update this week? If so, I can't seem to find it.


Just the announcement from Scott 2 days ago. It's in the "announcements" section of the forums.

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#89796 - 03/23/12 01:53 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: Ritz2]
legivens Offline
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Thank you, I didn't see it.
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Epson 5025UB
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Outlaw Model 7900
Outlaw Model 5000 (for the ceiling speakers)
Marantz AV7702 MK2
Oppo BDP-105D
Axiom M80's, GoldenEar Super XXL, GoldenEar Aon 3's (sides and rears), GoldenEar HTR 7000's (in-ceiling for Atmos/DTS:X)
Outlaw LFM1-Plus and EX
Directv HD DVR
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#89799 - 03/23/12 04:17 PM Re: More Frequent Updates [Re: legivens]
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Originally Posted By: legivens
Did Peter ever make the other update this week? If so, I can't seem to find it.


In addition to the 978 Update in the Announcement forum, there was an email announcement for the OAWA3 Amplified Wireless Audio System.
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