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#89228 - 01/28/12 08:15 PM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: Hank]
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[quote=Hank]Surrounds are good if done right - a lot of people use direct radiating traditional boxes, and they turn up the volume a bit much, so the "surround" effect is not very surrounding. Bipole or dipole speakers work well. [/quote

Except, I don't believe that Dolby recommends Bipole/dipole speaker any longer. I believe that was an artifact of the original dolby surround. FWIW, Yamaha always recommended direct speakers.
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#89229 - 01/29/12 01:48 AM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: XenonMan]
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"Looks like Emotiva has beaten Outlaw to the punch as their processor is coming out this summer."

Making an announcement is not the same as releasing a product for purchase. Nobody has beaten anybody to the punch yet.

More news from Outlaw would be nice, but I'm in no rush.

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#89230 - 01/29/12 08:24 AM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: JeffreyMercado]
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Originally Posted By: JeffreyMercado
Looks like Emotiva has beaten Outlaw to the punch as their processor is coming out this summer. The XMC-1 $1499 with Tact correction


Like Outlaw, Emotiva doesn't have a particularly enviable record with releasing product on time and their birthing pains with the UMC-1 firmware were/are pretty painful for early adopters. smile

They also have the negative stigma associated with outsourcing all their production to China.

That said, the partnership with Tact for room correction is interesting, especially at their intended price point.

Best,


Edited by Ritz2 (01/29/12 08:24 AM)
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#89238 - 01/30/12 01:36 PM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: JeffreyMercado]
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Originally Posted By: JeffreyMercado
Looks like Emotiva has beaten Outlaw to the punch as their processor is coming out this summer. The XMC-1 $1499 with Tact correction


Wasn't there quite a few problems with their prior SSP?

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#89240 - 01/30/12 06:26 PM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: Kevin C Brown]
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I think they all have some issues when the processor first gets released.
Without doubt Emotiva will have some issues when their new processor is released, so will Outlaw. I own processors from both companies and neither is without issues.
Who remembers changing out chips in their 950?

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#89241 - 01/30/12 08:58 PM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: Keta]
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I had a 950, and all the known issues were fixed by Outlaw. Never had an Emotiva, but my impression is that the problems with that one were a lot worse? How is the room EQ correction on the UMC-1? Anything close to Audyssey?
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#89242 - 01/30/12 09:29 PM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: Kevin C Brown]
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Can anyone tell me if the Outlaw 978 will have better video processing? It seems that MOST of what I read on the forum is audio capabilities and not video.
I just happened to read a review on the Integra 80.3 processor and it looks as if it is a fine piece of equipment both in video and audio and I am wondering if the 978 will be a contender.

Thanks
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#89243 - 01/31/12 02:10 AM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: rubbersoul]
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I am not sure what you mean by better. As compared with what?

FWIW, per the announcement of the 998 delay and the 978
Quote:
The Model 978 will include five “fast switching” HDMI inputs along with two HDMI outputs, and it will be fully compliant with Version 1.4a offering 3D compatability and the Audio Return Channel.

Our video processing and scaling will be from Anchor Bay, using the chip sets found on many high-end Blu-ray players and AVRs.


I have never seen an exact statement of exactly what chip set Outlaw will be using. Anchor Bay was acquired last year by Silicon Images which now licenses its IP property so its possible that equivalent functionality could be imbedded into some customized chip.


Edited by 73Bruin (01/31/12 02:11 AM)
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#89244 - 01/31/12 09:37 AM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: rubbersoul]
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Hi All,

Originally Posted By: rubbersoul
Can anyone tell me if the Outlaw 978 will have better video processing?


I am curious about the interest in video processing on the 978 or any processor. Is it just a matter of convenience? I would imagine a true videophile would want to run the cable direct from source?

Thanks Bob

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#89245 - 01/31/12 10:09 AM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: Kevin C Brown]
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Originally Posted By: Kevin C Brown
I had a 950, and all the known issues were fixed by Outlaw. Never had an Emotiva, but my impression is that the problems with that one were a lot worse? How is the room EQ correction on the UMC-1? Anything close to Audyssey?


I had a Emotiva in my bedroom setup, did not care for it at all. The volume button on that massive metal remote quit working after a few months, AC power plug on the amp pulled out every time I removed the factory power cord, the 12v trigger circut on the amp from the processor went bad after a year. I forget the model numbers, they were one step-down from their top of the line products and I purchased them soon after my 990/7700 for a second setup. The build & sound quality was not even in the same class as my Outlaw products which have been used many years longer then my Emo gear was and have yet to give me a single problem. I don't know why they get the great reviews they do unless their has been a drastic improvement in their QC & components.

Still waiting for the 978, plan to dump my Integra 80.2 - great processor but those damn relay clicks bothered me so much I had to disable my subwoofers in setup to stop it.
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