#89246 - 01/31/12 12:28 PM
Re: 978 Release Date
[Re: bobm]
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Desperado
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I am curious about the interest in video processing on the 978 or any processor. Is it just a matter of convenience? I would imagine a true videophile would want to run the cable direct from source? The problem is that in many cases the picture doesn't come from the directly from the source and the source standards vary. Cable and satellite companies and video streamers like Netflix step all over the pictures they send in order to reduce bandwidth. Pictures also come in different resolutions and may be interlaced and the various boxes, players and TV's often do a less then stellar job of upscaling and deinterlacing. Good video processors can help fix many of these problems. Per the ABT PDF on the ABT2015: The ABT2015 features Video Reference Series™ (VRS™) technologies, including Silicon Image’s proprietary Precision Deinterlacing™, which provides arbitrary cadence detection as well as five-field motion and edge adaptive processing for an artifact-free viewing experience. The ABT2015 also includes Precision Video Scaling™ that independently scales an image horizontally and vertically as well as perform keystone correction, and includes MPEG and Mosquito noise reduction and picture enhancement to improve even high-definition images. The ABT2015 also includes Progressive Re-Processing™ (PReP™) technology; a unique processing method that recovers the original interlaced signal from a low quality progressive video signal for processing by the Precision Deinterlacing engine.
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#89247 - 01/31/12 01:09 PM
Re: 978 Release Date
[Re: 73Bruin]
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My Onkyo includes ISF capable video adjusts. It allows me to change the picture on my screen to suit my preferences. I set it initially and let it do its thing in Auto for the most part. All of my video is upscaled to 1080i and a lot of times I can't tell a difference when the native source is providing 1080i or the Onkyp is upscaling. Many TVs allow the same adjustments but they are normally done by a tech. The Onkyo just gives my old Samsung the capability when I need it.
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#89248 - 01/31/12 03:43 PM
Re: 978 Release Date
[Re: 73Bruin]
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Pictures also come in different resolutions and may be interlaced and the various boxes, players and TV's often do a less then stellar job of upscaling and deinterlacing. Good video processors can help fix many of these problems. I can understand this but is the processor the best place for all this work to occur? Would the TV or projector be a better place? Thanks Bob
Edited by bobm (01/31/12 03:43 PM)
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#89249 - 01/31/12 04:46 PM
Re: 978 Release Date
[Re: bobm]
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Bob: The best argument I can make is that by having the audio and video processing in the same device, delays caused by time required to process the two different signals can be accounted for and adjusted. If the video delay is created in the TV after the audio signal is split out, thert is no way to synch the signals again. This is of course assuming that the TV manufacturer is willing to pay to put in the processing capabilities.
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#89250 - 01/31/12 05:35 PM
Re: 978 Release Date
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Gunslinger
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73Bruin:Good point, the next thing folks will be asking for amps in their processors.  Seriously, its amazing how many duplicate option are being put into multiple devices. For example, connectivity apps (Netflix), BD players, TV’s, AVR’s and single use boxes. I see you are a fan of NHT. I was just thinking of upgrading my SuperOnes to Classic 3’s. Bob
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#89253 - 01/31/12 07:00 PM
Re: 978 Release Date
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Desperado
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Bob: Philosophically, I would prefer that hardware based functions be located where they can do the most (e.g. why put high quality DAC's in CD Players, DVD/BluRay Players, and streaming devices plus the audio processor. Therefore, my preference would be to put as much non-mechanical functionality as possible into the audio processor.
As for the NHT's. My main system was not so much the result of a preference for NHT as it was compromize with my better half. I traded out my beloved DQ-10's for the NHT's plus a wide screen TV. The rest was momentum.
Edited by 73Bruin (01/31/12 07:02 PM)
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#89267 - 02/03/12 06:55 PM
Re: 978 Release Date
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Gunslinger
Registered: 10/01/10
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Loc: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
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Has anyone else noticed that the Aug. 2, 2011 update regarding the Model 978 was unceremoniously expunged from this forum 2 or 3 weeks ago (I missed the exact date)? One can only guess why, but there is now no officially published update since Jan. 26, 2011, more than a year ago...
Edit: It occurs to me that the only real "news" in that now-absent update related to the inclusion of the vaunted ESS DACs (yes, there was also the bit about the switching power supply). Curious...
Edited by GaryB (02/03/12 07:05 PM)
Edit Reason: refreshed memory
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#89268 - 02/03/12 07:02 PM
Re: 978 Release Date
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Gunslinger
Registered: 11/13/08
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Loc: United States
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Odd. There is still a link to the 8/2/11 update on the product page, but it goes nowhere. I suspect it was lost in error.
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#89269 - 02/03/12 07:07 PM
Re: 978 Release Date
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Gunslinger
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I suspect it was lost in error. I suspect you're being much too charitable.
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#89275 - 02/04/12 05:11 AM
Re: 978 Release Date
[Re: GaryB]
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 01/12/12
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Edit: It occurs to me that the only real "news" in that now-absent update related to the inclusion of the vaunted ESS DACs (yes, there was also the bit about the switching power supply). Curious... That's most of it. The rest can still be seen in the google cache if you're curious.
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