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#90682 - 06/17/12 05:00 PM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: Ritz2]
beyond 1000 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ritz2



The bigger problem (if it even sees the light of day) is going to be "who is going to buy it?" If I was the management of Outlaw, THAT would be my over-riding concern.

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#90684 - 06/17/12 06:28 PM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: Ritz2]
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Originally Posted By: Ritz2
Originally Posted By: beyond 1000
Originally Posted By: rubbersoul

With all due respect. Christmas? You might as well say next year.



Then I am going out on a limb here, and I hope that I am dead wrong on this, but then more like next year than this. If it is going to be sooner than Christmas it has to be September. They have to get the thing out or it is from Christmas to who knows to never.


The bigger problem (if it even sees the light of day) is going to be "who is going to buy it?" If I was the management of Outlaw, THAT would be my over-riding concern.

Best,


Well I'll buy one if it is bug free a year from now when I'm shopping for one. Those who want the best Audyssey version and place a high value on SQ will be interested in the 978 with its Sabre DACs.

Nice of you to do more hand wringing for Outlaw, but I think being in the business for a decade or more and being a pioneer in the ID model means they might know a little bit about who's a potential customer. And all this complaining that they are not updating on the 978 is not realistic. Does Parasound give updates? How about Denon, Pioneer, Yamaha, Onkyo, Hsu, SVS, Axiom, etc. I could name dozens, but the point is they do about the same as Outlaw on this front, and when they are almost ready to release it you'll hear about it.
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#90686 - 06/17/12 11:33 PM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: S. Sharkey]
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Personally, I don't care about status updates from Outlaw. I don't think we as Outlaw customers are entitled in any way shape or form to them. It's likely better for Outlaw to keep radio silence for many reasons. Under-promise and over-deliver.

Like many, I just want the thing to be released and tested so I can pick one up. smile

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#90687 - 06/18/12 06:56 AM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: twistybox]
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#90688 - 06/18/12 09:57 AM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: S. Sharkey]
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Originally Posted By: S. Sharkey

Does Parasound give updates? How about Denon, Pioneer, Yamaha, Onkyo, Hsu, SVS, Axiom, etc. I could name dozens, but the point is they do about the same as Outlaw on this front, and when they are almost ready to release it you'll hear about it.


The difference is that those companies attend all the major trade shows with product IN HAND and have FREQUENT product refreshes. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak. With outlaw, you get the occasional song and dance in the forum, but the bottom line is that it's been MANY years since they refreshed their theater processor. And they seem to have little control over the process other than stopping it when they don't like what they see.

What has Outlaw done recently (let's say the last 2 years) that has been ground breaking? Where is the value prop that they used to be known for? They're not even particularly competitive on pricing these days. Is that enough to keep the lights on? Dunno.

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Edited by Ritz2 (06/18/12 09:59 AM)
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#90689 - 06/18/12 10:41 AM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: Ritz2]
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Without any updates we would all think the 990 is the only processor that Outlaw is selling. C'mon be for real, of course we are due updates. Outlaw functions by word of mouth. They don't go to trade shows or advertise heavily anywhere else except this forum. The occasional audio review of their equipment being the only real exposure they get outside of this forum, they need to update us. This forum is their primary means of advertising. As Ritz2 said above, they have nothing to show us except the forum and some bootleg pictures of a fairy tale processor. They really haven't broke any new ground for the last 4 years at least. Selling other companies "about to be discontinued" products isn't getting them anything but a small profit to carry on. Remember too, that this processor although important to them is not the only thing they sell. Without an update, this forum is dead.
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#90690 - 06/18/12 11:46 AM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: XenonMan]
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Respectfully XenonMan, for a dead forum you must be gunning for lead necrophiliac:

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My excuse is that I rather like the smell of embalming fluid crazy , plus I get to post goofy stuff like this:
Rumors to make up because we are bored:


BTW, I doubt the "sneak peek" is going to be for an "about to be discontinued" product. Anyone else care to speculate (in the appropriate thread...) on what it might be? Anyone else get their passcode from the invite yet??? Sneak Peek Product specualtion


Edited by renov8r (06/18/12 11:54 AM)

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#90694 - 06/19/12 12:15 AM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: renov8r]
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I wonder since Outlaw hasn't brought out anything new for a couple of years and that they advertise by word of mouth how much money they rake in? How big is their staff? Are they taking a descent amount of orders or is this a side job for all of them?

Just wondering.
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#90708 - 06/19/12 01:12 PM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: renov8r]
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Perhaps the preview has something to do with Atlantic Technology..an H-PAS sound bar ??
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#90709 - 06/19/12 01:46 PM Re: 978 Release Date [Re: hifihunter]
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Yep. Here's my March 22nd post #89778 in the More Frequent Updates thread:

"Yes, one will be a "sound bar" with H-PAS. As Peter told me, this is public knowledge because he mentioned it in an Atlantic Technology press conference at CEDIA. Peter demoed H-PAS speakers at CES2010 and the bass from them was impressive indeed."
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