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#88994 - 01/08/12 07:31 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: opusX]
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
You could always grab a short cable and move the player to directly under the projector, see if the two components can work properly in that arrangement. If they can, it confirms that the cable is the problem. As Xenon points out, the problem isn't the "version" of the cable so much as the "speed" (bandwidth, sort of). If the cable is the problem, I would also recommend talking to Blue Jeans about a new cable - they are very honest about the best, most economical solutions for problematic HDMI cabling runs.
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#88995 - 01/08/12 07:34 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: opusX]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
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I would remove my BDP and use a six foot HDMI cable just to check out the 3D to make sure it isn't something else. My equipment is relatively easy to take out of the rack.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#88996 - 01/08/12 08:08 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: XenonMan]
opusX Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 17
Loc: McKinney, TX
Cool. Thanks guys. I'll give those options a try and keep you posted.
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Outlaw 990 & 7700
OPPO BDP-93
Panasonic PT-AE7000U 3D Projector
Direct TV Set top
DA-Lite 120" Screen
Panamax 5400EX (Filtering System Components)
Furman M-8 x2 (Filtering ML Fronts, Center & Subs)

Martin Logan Aeon i (Front)
Martin Logan Theater i (Center)
2 Martin Logan Descent (Subs)
Monitor Audio (Surrounds)
800 Watt Buttshaker Amplifier w/6 Bass Transducers

Accessories:
Cardas, Kimber Kable, Blue Jeans Interconnects
Naim Audio Speaker Cable
Toslink's
DIY Sound Panels | Bass Traps
Logitech 1100 Remote

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#89052 - 01/11/12 11:19 AM Re: 3D WOES [Re: opusX]
opusX Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 17
Loc: McKinney, TX
Ok so I ran a 35ft Ultra High Speed 13.8Gbps HMDI cable from my projector to the DVI 1 connection of the 990 and was successful in getting the projector to output 1080p however I still noticed some "jitter" and no 3D. So I believe its because I probably also need to switch out the connection between the BDP-93 and the 990 to continue the circle of life to produce TrueHD 1080p and 3D. Would you agree?
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Outlaw 990 & 7700
OPPO BDP-93
Panasonic PT-AE7000U 3D Projector
Direct TV Set top
DA-Lite 120" Screen
Panamax 5400EX (Filtering System Components)
Furman M-8 x2 (Filtering ML Fronts, Center & Subs)

Martin Logan Aeon i (Front)
Martin Logan Theater i (Center)
2 Martin Logan Descent (Subs)
Monitor Audio (Surrounds)
800 Watt Buttshaker Amplifier w/6 Bass Transducers

Accessories:
Cardas, Kimber Kable, Blue Jeans Interconnects
Naim Audio Speaker Cable
Toslink's
DIY Sound Panels | Bass Traps
Logitech 1100 Remote

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#89056 - 01/11/12 01:05 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: opusX]
EEman Offline
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Registered: 11/11/09
Posts: 514
Loc: Canton, MI
Cool, sounds like your making progress...

My advice is to get the simplest configuration working first and then start adding components.

So I would first try connecting the projector directly to the bluray using your new HDMI cable. If this works then the problem is either the other cable OR the 990. It's possible that the 990 is the limiting factor and that whatever switching method Outlaw is using internally won't support the 3D data rates.

If the bluray-projector direct connect doesn't work then you've got a problem in either your bluray or projector setup.


Edited by EEman (01/11/12 01:08 PM)
Edit Reason: Having trouble typing today

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#89060 - 01/11/12 04:04 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: EEman]
opusX Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 17
Loc: McKinney, TX
Gonk, to answer your question about my connections:

1. The PT-AE7000 is HDMI out, into DVI-1 of the 990
2. Direct TV is HDMI out, into DVI-2 of the 990
3. OPPO BDP-93 is HDMI out, into DVI-3 of the 990

Still having the same issue of no 3D. Headed to Radio Shack or Best Buy right now to pick a DVI to HDMI adapter for the BDP-93 and Direct TV
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Outlaw 990 & 7700
OPPO BDP-93
Panasonic PT-AE7000U 3D Projector
Direct TV Set top
DA-Lite 120" Screen
Panamax 5400EX (Filtering System Components)
Furman M-8 x2 (Filtering ML Fronts, Center & Subs)

Martin Logan Aeon i (Front)
Martin Logan Theater i (Center)
2 Martin Logan Descent (Subs)
Monitor Audio (Surrounds)
800 Watt Buttshaker Amplifier w/6 Bass Transducers

Accessories:
Cardas, Kimber Kable, Blue Jeans Interconnects
Naim Audio Speaker Cable
Toslink's
DIY Sound Panels | Bass Traps
Logitech 1100 Remote

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#89063 - 01/11/12 04:49 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: opusX]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
The 990 has three DVI connections. The top one is DVI OUT and should be connected to the HDMI IN on your projector. The other two, below that, are DVI-1 and 2 IN and should go to your BDP and your DTV receiver. There is no DVI-3 so check your connections if you can. The 990 should not be connected to the HDMI OUT on your projector, so check that also. Good luck although I think it is probably connected right and the labels are just mixed up in the post.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#89066 - 01/11/12 07:44 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: XenonMan]
opusX Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 17
Loc: McKinney, TX
You are correct. I don't know what the heck I was talking about earlier. Had too many things going on. Will let you know how the new connections work.
_________________________
Outlaw 990 & 7700
OPPO BDP-93
Panasonic PT-AE7000U 3D Projector
Direct TV Set top
DA-Lite 120" Screen
Panamax 5400EX (Filtering System Components)
Furman M-8 x2 (Filtering ML Fronts, Center & Subs)

Martin Logan Aeon i (Front)
Martin Logan Theater i (Center)
2 Martin Logan Descent (Subs)
Monitor Audio (Surrounds)
800 Watt Buttshaker Amplifier w/6 Bass Transducers

Accessories:
Cardas, Kimber Kable, Blue Jeans Interconnects
Naim Audio Speaker Cable
Toslink's
DIY Sound Panels | Bass Traps
Logitech 1100 Remote

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#89070 - 01/11/12 11:27 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: opusX]
opusX Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 17
Loc: McKinney, TX
Ok changed all the cables and still no 3D. It seems the 990 doesn't want to want to process the 3D information. All 2D viewing and music listening is fine. Not sure if this matters but I've had the 990 for 6yrs now and I never did the firmware update because I never saw a real need to. Does this matter or is someone just going to tell me the 990 will not work in 3D?
_________________________
Outlaw 990 & 7700
OPPO BDP-93
Panasonic PT-AE7000U 3D Projector
Direct TV Set top
DA-Lite 120" Screen
Panamax 5400EX (Filtering System Components)
Furman M-8 x2 (Filtering ML Fronts, Center & Subs)

Martin Logan Aeon i (Front)
Martin Logan Theater i (Center)
2 Martin Logan Descent (Subs)
Monitor Audio (Surrounds)
800 Watt Buttshaker Amplifier w/6 Bass Transducers

Accessories:
Cardas, Kimber Kable, Blue Jeans Interconnects
Naim Audio Speaker Cable
Toslink's
DIY Sound Panels | Bass Traps
Logitech 1100 Remote

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#89076 - 01/12/12 12:53 PM Re: 3D WOES [Re: opusX]
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
Firmware updates to the 990 won't alter how the DVI switching works. I don't know if the DVI switching is compatible with 3D or not, but a simple test would be to bypass the 990 and see if going from the BDP-93 to the projector works.
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