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#86202 - 02/26/11 05:37 PM Re: Getting an amp! [Re: zuter]
Sirquack Offline
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Registered: 02/24/11
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Loc: Iowa
I just did some math, and I think the room is going to be around 2600 cu ft. It was a bit hard to figure because it is not perfect square/rectangular and has some angled walls, but that is pretty close.

With the Axiom 80's being rated at 95dB 1w/1m inroom, they play pretty loud with little power. The price sure is attractive, especially if I consider a B-Stock item. Either way it is a nice price.

My main concern is I don't want to go down the patch of having shutdown/protection issues like I did with the Emo MPS-1, which at the time was Emo's top of the line. They blamed Axiom, saying the M80's in certain situations, were dipping way below 4ohms, kicking the amp into protection mode. In fact, the M80s are above 4ohm for the majority of the frequency range, they could almost be considered a 6ohm speaker. Other people have had issues with the XPA-2 and -5's as wall, again Emo blaims the Axiom design.

I haven't heard much with problems with the Outlaw amps, other than Tharkun, who was driving 5 M80's years ago with one of the older 200 watt amps. He had some issues and ended up returning it for some Parasound Halo's. Granted, Tharkun listed to music at insane volumes in a very large room, around 8,000 cu ft.

Anyway, I am anxious to do some more research and make a decision, I hope in the near future. These models have been out for some time, so I wonder if there are some new offerings that will be released at some point. Amp design hasn't changed much in A A/B designs for many years, so most likely there won't be.
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#86205 - 02/26/11 09:05 PM Re: Getting an amp! [Re: Sirquack]
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Like you, the only instance I've heard of in with Outlaw amps have had problems driving Axioms was when they were in a tremendously large room (8,000 cu.ft. is off the charts big). There have been folks using the 200W Outlaw amps with Polk LSi towers (which are low impedance and low efficiency) with good results. There have also been a whole lot of people using Outlaw amps with various Axiom speakers over the last decade.
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#86206 - 02/27/11 08:48 AM Re: Getting an amp! [Re: gonk]
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I drive 5 Klipsch speakers with my 7125 and although they are slightly more efficient than the Axioms, the amp never even gets warm. If you have protection issues with the 7125 then you need to send it back. 200W vs. 125W is only 2 db SPL and you don't need the power.
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APC H15 Power Conditioner

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Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
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#86446 - 03/10/11 01:53 PM Re: Getting an amp! [Re: XenonMan]
zuter Offline
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Registered: 02/17/11
Posts: 18
Ok, I've purchased the 7700 (b-stock) and should be arriving next week.

Thanks for everyones help and comments! I know the 7700 is more than I'll need but the savings were enough for me to go with this model over the 7125.

I'll be looking for pre/pro, in a year or so and I'll be following the new units that Outlaw will be offering soon.

Again thanks everyone!
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#86447 - 03/10/11 03:53 PM Re: Getting an amp! [Re: zuter]
KOYAAN Offline
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I don't think you'll ever regret purchasing the 7700. It's an amp you'll probably never outgrow.
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#86449 - 03/10/11 05:14 PM Re: Getting an amp! [Re: KOYAAN]
gonk Offline
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As a 7500 owner, I agree with KOYAAN.
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#86687 - 04/02/11 07:55 PM Re: Getting an amp! [Re: zuter]
Sirquack Offline
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Registered: 02/24/11
Posts: 43
Loc: Iowa
Zuter, the 7125 is on sale, killer dealeo...
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#86698 - 04/03/11 06:38 PM Re: Getting an amp! [Re: Sirquack]
XenonMan Offline
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Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Contact Outlaw and they will probably give you the sale price on the 7700. Saves a bundle.
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Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#86702 - 04/03/11 09:17 PM Re: Getting an amp! [Re: XenonMan]
Sirquack Offline
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Registered: 02/24/11
Posts: 43
Loc: Iowa
Well, the 7200 would be more in my price range, I've been considering a B-Stock as well. Of course, need the WAF. smile
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Axiom M22v2-OWM22v3-VP100v3-EP350v3 Denon2805
Sanyo Z2 Projector
130" DIY Screen
Panny BluRay

My Homepage

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#86703 - 04/04/11 05:48 PM Re: Getting an amp! [Re: Sirquack]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
my point was that the 7700 is on sale for $250 less than the 7200 right now.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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