After years of thinking the 990 OSD , when activated , would only show black background with menu's, I was mistaken.
Having to rearange my set up, low and behold I had OSD over program material I was viewing for 2 short days, ... then
Today having to make some changes to 7.1 inputs from Oppo to 990, I lost OSD over program material I an viewing.
I have not a clue of what I did to lose it, nor what I did to actually have it.
I am connected to TV via Component Video from the 990 and from Oppo to 990.
I also have the Oppo DVD p conected to TV via HDMI cable, but when making changes to the 990 menu's, I switch to Component Video on TV.

The OSD will be overlayed on material that is input via s-video, composite video, and possibly 480i component video (not sure about that last one). The OPPO is probably not outputting 480i, so it won't get an OSD overlay.

It was overlayered on Component video. I also have composite video conected and have toggled back and forth between the two without any success today.
I will try again in the morning.

The menus will overlay on component, but the rest of the OSD will only sisplay via composit or S video.

To be more exact, the menus will be generated on a black background with component video inputs, while they will be superimposed onto the incoming video source with composite and s-video inputs. I think the menus can also be superimposed over the incoming video source with 480i component video signals, but I could be wrong - it isn't mentioned in the manual, and I didn't routinely use any 480i component sources with my Model 990 when I had one.

Additionally, the on-screen messages for things like volume and input are only provided with s-video and composite video inputs. They might also work with 480i component, but I don't know for sure.

On screen messages do not show on 480i component. They only show on composite and s-video.
That's kind of a neat feature if you want to use a secondary display for control purposes. You do that, don't you Gonk?

Thanks for the confirmation on that. Do you recall if the setup menu get overlaid onto the incoming video signal when using a 480i component input?


I do not, although I've heard of other folks doing it. I do have a "secondary" display in my stereo system, though. It is a small LCD screen so I can see the video output from my player, which is great for player configuration, DVD-Audio menus, Blu-ray menus, DLNA server access, and CD or SACD text.

Are these OSD messages (separate from the setup menu's), that do not display on the component output, things like the volume, input source or lip sync delay that already display on the 990 display or something else?

I have a hard time visualizing a use for this, unless the 990 is hidden from normal view (in which case, its probably a great feature for those with a small secondary display)

Thanks for helping me figure this out. While viewing DVD ,the 990's OSD will display over program material through composite.However when I switch over to 7.1 anolog, even with composite selected, it will not, comes up black screen.
This puzzles me, yet I realy have no need to see program material when listening to DVD-A or SACD.

What is your video signal path when using the 7.1 Direct input? The 7.1 D input does have a dedicated composite input, but is the player's composite output connected to that input or to the input assigned "DVD"?

If the 990 is outside the view of the listener, the on screen display can be of some help, but not much. I find the really benifit in a secondary display is allowing you to due setup and maintenance sorts of things without usng the main display. this saves a lot of silly questions from "she who must be obeyed".

This on screen display (OSD) discussion highlights the need for what I requested in a previous post about features to include in the 978/998. I believe that both systems should incorporate an option to allow for a "ghost" OSD toggle option over the video source such that you can see the semi transparent OSD and/or setup menus and still see the video program material. This will make access to the OSD and setup menues more accessible and convenient, and it will likely eliminate many wife acceptance factor (WAF) and "she who must be obyed" issues. I currently cannot view the OSD because my 990 is in a cabinet, so I have to go and open the cabinet to view the OSD; and for the setup menus, I have my universal remote programed to turn on the setup menus and switch my video source, but it is all in black screen and quite disruptive, and thus I only do it rarely.

Ed

It is connected via the 990's DVD input. Is what you are saying is that I need to use a Y connector from the Oppo's composite out running two cables , one to DVD input and the other to 7.1 input

I wouldn't split the output, but the 990's DVD composite input won't be active when the 7.1 Direct input is selected. The composite connections are linked to their assigned inputs. How do you have the OPPO connected for video? Also, which OPPO do you have? If you can use component from the player, you can assign the same component input to both DVD and 7.1 Direct.

I have the Oppo DV-980H connected to the 990 via Component video DVD inputs .... and Composite video output from the Oppo to input on the 990.
When the 990 is switched to 7.1 in component input it shows only a black screen, no album or track info.
As you describe, Component Video works fine for both DVD and 7.1 minus the OSD over source being viewed.
Would using the 980H's s-video output to 990's s-video give me what i am seeking .
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If you've got the 980H connected to the 990 with the component output (on Component-DVD), I'd assign "Comp-DVD" to both the DVD and 7.1 Direct inputs in the input settings menu. The composite connection isn't necessary unless you really want to see the 990's OSD "pop-up" messages.

I do have it connected that way ( Component ) but there are times when I want to access OSD over program material, this is the reason for connecting via coposite video.

The setup menus can be accessed with a component input, although it replaces the incoming video with a black background. If you want the status messages, you could use composite for one input (DVD) and s-video for the other (7.1 Direct). Stepping down from component to either of these connections is creating a compromise in video quality, though, so I'd only suggest doing it if you really need to get that status message.