For some reason I was not getting email notifications, so I apologize for not following the .. waves that I contributed to making. This post seems like the best place to jump in ...

Chris Kyriakakis did NOT call anyone out. The context was that another manufacturer, Simaudio, went so far as to release a pre/pro with Audyssey technology in it, logos on the display and Audyssey's intellectual property (trademarks) all over the manual. This, and that they were not a licensee came to light from a post from an AVS Forum member where someone had referred to Simaudio using Audyssey. After that post, Chris said that that was interesting as Simaudio is not a licensee.

That is what happened here as well. A member carried Peter's announcement to the thread and Chris commented on it.

Audyssey's licensing is with the branded company, not underlying manufacturer. Regardless of who made it, if Outlaw wants to sell something with Audyssey in it, then they must license it.

I'm sure that there is communication between the two entities and that everything is peachy.

Jeff

Yes, in that this all started when someone brought this up on AVS, but NO in that if what is reported is as described, the other company actually brought a product to market and apparently sold it without the right licensing. Here it is a bit different, as the product was announced to have a feature, but you can't buy it yet. There's a BIG difference there.

As pepar/Jeff suggests, one has to believe that this will be put together properly and that all will be well in order by the time the product is sold. It is in both sides' interest to make that happen.

LOL!!! Well, other than a press release, that's about as definitive as it gets.

Maybe they're relying on Lexicon licensing (like their reboxed...literally...Oppo bluray player).

I kid! I kid! :P

This is interesting news. I am excited to hear more details about the new processor.

Interesting and it's good to see an update from Peter. I also work daily with engineers here and at our ODM's and can tell you that software (firmware) is always full of surprises and is always late, no matter how hard you push. Codecs and multmedia processers and porting of operating systems makes for a long product development time. I think I'll be replacing my 950 in Q1.

I had been looking at the Integra 80.2 as a possible upgrade to my OP885, but now that this unit has been brought to my attention, I will investigate further. I owned a 950 way back when ...

Jeff

Partially as atonement for stirring things up , but mostly because I myself am now very excited about this unit, I have started a thread on AVS Forum...

Re Peters anouncement...
Thank ya jeesuss! Saved enough loonies and twonies now, so lets have at 'er.
Question, those of us in Canada, will we have to pony up some sort of Customs fee due to the product being manufactured over seas? I guess yes, but maybe some weasle clause with the design from North America. Hoping so.

The Outlaws might find that if they put out a pre/pro with Audyssey's latest suite, that *it* will turn out to be the flagship and no follow on Trinnov is needed.

Jeff

I've been carrying what I learn here to AVS and in response to someone speculating about the 978 not having DSX, I linked to the image linked in Peter's announcement that shows Dolby PLIIz lit up on the display. I speculated that the 978, neé 998, was designed from the ground up with (at least) 9.2 channels. Is that a safe ... assumption? If so, the "extra" output connectors would have already been in the design.