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#84667 - 09/18/10 07:15 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: Dave Chapin]
Dave Chapin Offline
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I just found my answer by searching the forums. Sorry for the noise. No pun intended. Answer is, you do NOT lose the benefits of the 7700's balanced design.

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#84679 - 09/20/10 07:32 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: Dave Chapin]
XenonMan Offline
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At close to 3X the cost of the 7700 and almost 2X the cost of the 7900 the Cinemova Grande is overpriced. Go with the 7700 and save the $$$
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#85361 - 12/27/10 05:35 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: Windmiller]
dwmayo1 Offline
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Registered: 12/06/05
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Loc: Buffalo, NY
I currently have the B&W 603, fronts and center, with the ADCOM 7605: 125W X 5....

I am a novice to a lot of this stuff but my ears are always open when someone tells me something will sound much better but I need to invest more. Case in point...I am being told that the B&W speakers that I have would be "MUCH" better sounding, whatever "MUCH" better means???, if I invest in an bigger Amp with 200W per channel or higher....thoughts????

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#85364 - 12/27/10 06:29 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: dwmayo1]
gonk Offline
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"Much" better when moving from 125W to 200W is difficult to believe. When moving between good quality power amps, I expect changes to be incremental and subtle - if there is a really dramatic difference, I start looking for problems somewhere. The same should be true in your case. Adcom's amps are generally good, and you've already got a decent bit of power per channel. The extra headroom amounts to just a couple dB of output. And with speakers that are have a sensitivity of 90dB (according to a brochure I found at B&W's site for the DM603 s3), you would need to have it in a truly gigantic space to need more than 125W of power to get good results from those speakers.
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#85367 - 12/27/10 07:12 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: gonk]
XenonMan Offline
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I agree with Gonk, 100%. The extra 75 wpc is not going to change the sound of your B&Ws very much. Louder speakers always sound better no matter what manufacturer makes them. In your case the sound would damage your hearing, well below the limit of the amp. It is true that the extra wattage may help prevent the amp from clipping, but at that level, something else will give out first, likely your marriage or your front door as the cops break it down.
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Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
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#85370 - 12/27/10 08:17 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: XenonMan]
dwmayo1 Offline
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Registered: 12/06/05
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Loc: Buffalo, NY
great stuff!!!! thanks!!!!

I have always been a fan of ADCOM Amps and going from 125W to 200W doesnt make sense to me either...just wanted some opinons from those much more versed then I am.......

happy holidays to all!!!

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#86285 - 03/02/11 05:29 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: dwmayo1]
jeanpaulfitness1 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/11
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Loc: Marion, MA / USA
at this time i have a pioneer elite sc-07 avr receiver at 140watts x7 along with atlantic tech 8200e speakers, would i notice a improvement if i go with the outlaw 7700 amp?
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#86288 - 03/02/11 06:52 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: jeanpaulfitness1]
XenonMan Offline
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I would say no. The SC-07 is rated all channels driven at 140 watts. Some labs have measured it below the spec, but it still puts out more than 120 WPC. Don't waste your $$$ at this point.
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APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#86351 - 03/05/11 02:03 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: XenonMan]
jeanpaulfitness1 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/11
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Loc: Marion, MA / USA
Thank your for the info, I will like to upgrade from and abr receiver, to an amp and pre-amp. What do you suggest is the best for an amp and pre-amp?
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Playstation 4
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monster power htps7000
LSiM707 l/r, polk lsim 706 center, LSiM702F/X sur l/r and surr back l/r

logitech harmony 1100 universal remote
Fios digital cable box
bluejeans xlr cables
monoprice hdmi(silverplated) cables
samsung blutooth active 3d glasses (ssg-3100gb)

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#86355 - 03/05/11 06:58 PM Re: Considering the purchase of a 7700 [Re: jeanpaulfitness1]
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