#82492 - 02/18/10 06:57 AM
Bellari Tube Phono Preamp worth it?
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 02/18/10
Posts: 10
Loc: NJ, USA
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Hi All,
I am looking to making the plunge to vinyl and was wondering if a Tube preamp is a worthy investment. I am looking at a music hall 5.1 turntable and I was considering the Bellari 130 tube phono preamp. I am running a 990/7700 combo with Aperion 6T towers. On a side note, I also have a rr2150 with NHT 2.5i mains for my stereo listening. Does anyone know how the phono sections compare on the two units? I am not sure which unit I will use the turntable on, but I am leaning towards the 990 combo for now. Thanks!!
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HT - Outlaw 990/7700 Pre/pro, Aperion 6T mains, NHT AC-1 Center, SVS PB12 Plus 2, NHT Super 1 rears, Oppo BDP 83, Music Hall 5.1 Stereo - Outlaw RR2150, NHT 2.5i, Technics 1200
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#82495 - 02/18/10 09:00 AM
Re: Bellari Tube Phono Preamp worth it?
[Re: Anthony L]
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Desperado
Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
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I would try the MusicHall table without the Bellari to see how you like it first. I use the 990 phono stage and I love it. The Bellari has a good rep but why spend $$$ if you don't have to.
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Music system Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD APC H15 Power Conditioner
TV System Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv
Home Theater System Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv Harmony ONE Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects APC H15 Power Conditioner
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#82498 - 02/18/10 12:30 PM
Re: Bellari Tube Phono Preamp worth it?
[Re: XenonMan]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 122
Loc: Denver, CO USA
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I'm using the 5.1 with the 990 phono stage and am quite happy with it, but maybe I don't have the requisite "golden ears" - worth a try, for sure. (PSB 6Ts, Energy Center & Surrounds, etc.)
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Integra DRX 3.1, Outlaw 5000 Fronts - Golden Ear Triton 2, Center - Martin Logan Motion 8, Surround L/R - Energy Audissey A5+2, Sony XBR65X850E Oppo BDP-83, Sony UBP-X800 Roku Streaming Stick + Music Hall mm5.1 table, Ortofon 2M Blue Cartridge, Cambridge Audio 640P Phono Preamp, Pro-Ject Speed Box Belkin Pure AV Power Conditioner Audioquest Type 8 speaker cable, Monoprice speaker Cable Mostly Monoprice interconnects
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#82504 - 02/18/10 08:05 PM
Re: Bellari Tube Phono Preamp worth it?
[Re: NRBQLou]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 206
Loc: Central Ma.
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I liked the 990 phono section,but liked it better when I added a Pro-ject Phono box SE
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Outlaw 990/7125,Denon 2910,Toshiba A3, Klipsch RF35,RC35,RS35,RW12,SMS-1
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#82518 - 02/20/10 08:48 AM
Re: Bellari Tube Phono Preamp worth it?
[Re: loopy]
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 02/18/10
Posts: 10
Loc: NJ, USA
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Thanks All. I order the Music Hall, so I should have it on Monday. I hope I like it. I am holding off on the preamp.
Thanks again!!
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HT - Outlaw 990/7700 Pre/pro, Aperion 6T mains, NHT AC-1 Center, SVS PB12 Plus 2, NHT Super 1 rears, Oppo BDP 83, Music Hall 5.1 Stereo - Outlaw RR2150, NHT 2.5i, Technics 1200
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#82520 - 02/20/10 10:13 AM
Re: Bellari Tube Phono Preamp worth it?
[Re: Anthony L]
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Desperado
Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
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Anthony L, any specifics about why you chose the Music Hall? I have looked at them before as a replacement and would like to know how it performs for you. I have an old Technics 1200 and a big album collection which I almost never play since I got "digitized". For me it is not a sound thing but more of a convenience thing as digital is just so easy. I do love my old music though. I am going to set up a music only system in my bedroom.
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Music system Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD APC H15 Power Conditioner
TV System Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv
Home Theater System Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv Harmony ONE Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects APC H15 Power Conditioner
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#82523 - 02/20/10 09:21 PM
Re: Bellari Tube Phono Preamp worth it?
[Re: XenonMan]
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/01/02
Posts: 130
Loc: Louse Angeles, CA
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Xenon - A technics 1200, even an "old" one, is a really decent turntable. While you lose a little isolation from the direct drive when compared to a belt, the speed accuracy and stability makes up for it. I actually bought a new one a few years ago from KAB, who adds back the dust cover and sells some accessories for them like record clamps, etc. Considering the engineering that has gone into the 1200, they are a really good deal. Not to mention they will run forever. Mine is a little harsh in the midrange, so at some point I may go to a different cartridge. I had thought previously it might be my phono preamp (a Nohr ACA), but it's not really any different through the 990 I acquired recently. I'm about to add a tube/SS hybrid amp to the system to see if that helps. I've never quite gotten back the warm sound I had in my system as a teenager when I had a Dual TT, Ortofon MC cartridge, and an old Heathkit tubed receiver. If it isn't just old ears, I am hoping this brings it back to both the vinyl as well as my digital stuff. Anyway, I'd look at trying a new cart out on your Technics before dropping a bunch of $$ on the Music Hall, since you already have it. You can find a lot of useful info and parts for them here: http://www.kabusa.com/sl1200mk5.htmThere were also a lot of threads over at Audiocircle about the 1200 and different cartridges to use on it. I have the Ortofon Pros30 or 40 (can't remember which at the moment), and obviously wouldn't recommend it based on my experience at the moment.
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#82524 - 02/20/10 10:13 PM
Re: Bellari Tube Phono Preamp worth it?
[Re: Brandon B]
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Desperado
Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
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Don't get me wrong, the 1200 still kicks butt but it is at least 20 years old. It will eventually fail and I will need a new one. I like to know whats out there.
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Music system Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD APC H15 Power Conditioner
TV System Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv
Home Theater System Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv Harmony ONE Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects APC H15 Power Conditioner
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#82534 - 02/22/10 09:35 AM
Re: Bellari Tube Phono Preamp worth it?
[Re: XenonMan]
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 02/18/10
Posts: 10
Loc: NJ, USA
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I just researched turnatbles and the Music Hall kept coming up in my price range. I was torn between the Music hall 2.1 and 5.1 and I just decided to take the plunge. The Technics is a great player. I should get the Music hall some time today, so I am hoping I m happy with it.
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HT - Outlaw 990/7700 Pre/pro, Aperion 6T mains, NHT AC-1 Center, SVS PB12 Plus 2, NHT Super 1 rears, Oppo BDP 83, Music Hall 5.1 Stereo - Outlaw RR2150, NHT 2.5i, Technics 1200
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#82538 - 02/22/10 08:39 PM
Re: Bellari Tube Phono Preamp worth it?
[Re: Anthony L]
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Desperado
Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
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I am sure you will be. Let us know how well you like it. What kind of vinyl music do you listen to?
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Music system Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD APC H15 Power Conditioner
TV System Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv
Home Theater System Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv Harmony ONE Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects APC H15 Power Conditioner
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