Any "real" differences regarding features or quality? I'll never understand why the same company makes 2 different products that compete against one another at almost the same price point, besides possibly the "boutique" factor. With separate websites, it is also hard to compare. So anyone with experience researching these, or owning them, have a "quick list" of key differences?

I'd jump on the 9.9 at this price, but am unsure about the Onkyo, especially at it's price point compared to the 9.9.

Thanks.

It is my understanding that the Onkyo Pro is not a retail store item, and is sold through specialty distributors and installers; the Integra is, of course, their boutique line. Past that, it's got a different face and ears, and that's it.

OK, after A-B'ing these pics, the only differences I see in the back panels are that the Integra has Sirius, XM, and HD radio capabilities, and the Onkyo does not. Otherwise, they look identical.



[img]http://www.csn-teknik.dk/images/ONKYO_PR-SC886%20bagside.jpg.bmp[/img]

The Integra comes with a 3 year factory warrenty. The Onkyo Pro has a 2 year one.

The 886 and the 9.9 are functionally identical. They both have the HD radio and XM/Sirius capability .

Quoting from the outlaw PR-886 page:

http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/886.html

The differences are the cosmetics and the longer warranty on the Integra.

The 9.8 and 885 were identical except for the omission of a "pure audio" mode on the 9.8. As I understand it, the same is true of the 9.9 and the 886.

So basically you are paying $350 more for 1 more year of warranty and 1 "pure mode"? Seriously? This still baffles me. Why offer, on Onkyo's end, both products then?

No, you are paying more for one more year and one less mode (the 9.8 lacked the mode that the 885 offered, and I think the 9.9 and 886 are the same way). Seriously. They offer it because Integra is their premium line, sold direct to consumers through dealers or custom installers, and I believe that there are some restrictions about selling Integra at all over the internet. The 886, on the other hand, is an "Onkyo Professional" product that is supposedly only being sold to commercial dealers for use in commercial installations (business, education, etc.).

Interesting.........(twiddles fingers)! Thanks for the info and clarification Gonk. I had never heard of the Onkyo "pro products" before this. Integra, however, I was well aware of.

Can that second HDMI "out" be used as a "zone" output?

The second zone can be paired with a component video output, but the HDMI outputs are both main zone and only one can be active at a time.

I wonder why your picture of the back of the 886 looks different than the one on Onkyo's site?

Yeah, what gives? That is the same as the Integra I posted, but different than the 886 pic I posted. Both pics have the correct silk-screened model # on them. Possibly a later revision?

Your earlier pic was of the "PR-SC886 MMP" and the picture above is of the "PR-SC886 MDD" - no idea what the difference is, but I think the "MDD" with the Sirius, XM, and AC outlet is the unit that is actually being sold in this market. The "MPP" may be a separate offering for markets that don't have Sirius or XM. (Southern hemisphere perhaps?)

Can anyone that owns one verify it for sure? If so, I am probably just getting the 886. I've had my eye on the Integra 9.9 ever since the 997 was announced (it was probably the 9.8 back then). There's not much point in waiting anymore. If the reviews are great on the 997 when it comes out, I can always upgrade again and sell the 950 I guess.

My 885 has sirius/XM, so it would be pretty odd for the 886 to have dropped it.

I did some research online and read that the MMP is the "European" version. We have the MMD as pictured.