I also bought a 886 from shoponkyo and received a brand new unit. The majority of members over at AVS have also posted the 886s they bought from shoponkyo and A4L were new units in sealed boxes. The 885 I bought from shoponkyo was also a new unit.

I am curious to know if the 886s Outlaw will be selling will be the PR-SC886P or the PR-SC886. The difference is the "P" model (Professional) comes with the rack mount kit. The 885 and 886 I bought from shoponkyo were the non "P" models.

If Outlaw will be selling the non "P" models that might be why the 886 is no longer available on shoponkyo. Maybe shoponkyo has an arrangement with Outlaw to provide the new units they were selling as "refurbs".

Bill