I have the 990, 7500, and LFM-1 Plus sub. Speakers are B&W 804S/HTM3S.
So far I haven't noticed the need for in-room EQ or Calibration, but I'm sure the trinnov will help.
Does it also do sub calibration, like the SMS-1, or does one still have to buy that unit?

I am pretty certain that it will do sub EQ as well as the other speakers.

With Audyssey (and I assume Trinnov from the specs) there is no need for a separate sub-woofer manager. In fact it is strongly suggested that you take the SMS-1 out of the loop when using Audyssey as it can actually impede the room correction process. That's exactly what I did when I added Audyssey Pro to my arsenal of tools a few years ago (first with the Denon 3808ci and now with the AVP-A1HDci).

These full system room equalizers take over all the functions of other boxes and I can't imagine that Trinnov would be any different in that regard. The one new wrinkle that Trinnov brings to the table is the ability to acoustically relocate speakers in difficult placement situations. If the 997 is able to pull this off in a reasonable time frame it brings something very interesting to the table - especially at its price point.

That would be especially cool if one could acoustically relocate the speakers for several different listening positions in the room, save the settings, and access them for different occasions. Just dreaming . . .

Based on a post at AVS by Jeff Hipps, there will be three separate memories - which might be just what you'd need to do that.

The web site shows a 4-probe mic used to hear the speakers location in 3D space.
I guess the 997 would come with a similar mic?

I would say that it would have to - and it will probably be the same mic with a different logo on it.

Yes, the consumer Trinnov in the 997 will have multiple presets. I once again spoke with Trinnov's US manager, Curt Hoyt and he confirmed. It's a huge plus for me cuz I run two separate surround setups, a 5.1 one with music surrounds (identical to front) in classic ITU setup, and a 7.1 one with side and rear dipole surrounds for movies. To measure and save music and movie presets is the killer app for me (let along Trinnov's unique 3-D measurement and correction algorithms). And like the Onlyo pro 885 i have today, the 997 has my prerequisite XLR AND rca outputs for said surrounds, so I can pull off the multiple setups (the movie sides/aka music surrounds are never on at the same time, of course).

To paraphrase Curt, the $12k pro Optimizer model has some flexibility over the one we'll find in the 997...but functionally they are not a lot different.

I wonder if anybody here realizes that simple and proper room acoustic treatment will work far better than any electronic "correction". Electronic means can only attempt to _cover up_ room problems - it cannot cure the source of the problem. The problem will still be there, and the acoustic resonances will still be there.

Acoustic treatment cures the room problems at their source. Especially for critical music listening, actual, and real acoustic treatment is going to yield a far more natural sound field than any electronic "correction" can ever hope to achieve.

And those studios who supposedly "use" this electronic correction...the acoustics are designed by some of the best acousticians in the world. They do not need to use this device. There is nothing to "correct".

Information about the basics of acoustic treatment, in addition to other subjects can be found here.

Altec,

I agree with much of what you write. However there are the realities of possible speaker placement and "treatments" for dual use rooms like living rooms. Finally there are the "spouse rules' that must be considered. That is where Trinnov will truly address the problems