Thanks Gonk I'd didn't see that review it reafirms what I heard at the HE2000. Outlaw sent me a ticket and I ended up buying a 990 a month later. I first was going with the Para Studio 100v3 then I read about the v4. I decided to wait, then I said I think I can afford the Signature S8, big promotion at work lucky me, when a "VERY NICE" price on the S-1EX was found. i couldn't resist. I think I may have to eventually upgrade all my electronics to take advantage of these babies