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#77459 - 06/16/06 09:19 AM Transformer
barend Offline
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Does the 7700 use a toroidal transformer?
Anybody know the voltage/current requirements of the transformer's secundary?
We have 230VAC in Europe, and I have several 120V transformers, but it won't do to apply them to such a power hungry amp...
That's why I was thinking of maybe replacing the power transformer by a 230VAC type.
(I'm an electronics technician so don't worry about me setting the house on fire...).
I already own a few Outlaws (acquired through an American friend) and I love what they do besides sitting in their holes and shooting at people...
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#77460 - 06/16/06 09:27 AM Re: Transformer
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The 7700 uses a pair of toroidal transformers, actually. Scroll down to the middle of this page and you can see some pictures of a 7500's internals (the 7700 is similar, just with two more amp channels inside).

As for the voltage and current requirements on the secondary side of the transformers, I haven't a clue - you'd be best off giving Outlaw a call and quizzing them on it.
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#77461 - 06/16/06 11:05 AM Re: Transformer
barend Offline
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Thanks gonk,
I'm glad they used toroidals, as these are much easier to replace; I could even try to replace the primary winding.
I am aware this would jeopardize the warranty, but hey, that's life...
It sure is the cheapest 200W*7 amp on the planet!
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#77462 - 06/16/06 11:26 AM Re: Transformer
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Hey, if you know what you're doing, more power to you (or different voltage to you, as the case may be). smile
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#77463 - 06/17/06 09:56 PM Re: Transformer
Ritz Offline
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Doesn't ATI custom wind their own transformers? I seem to recall reading that somewhere. Just out of curiosity, what type of transformer were you thinking of using as a replacement?

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#77464 - 06/18/06 09:19 AM Re: Transformer
barend Offline
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@ Ritz
On second thought, because of the transformers probably having multiple windings, I will just let the toroids sit where they are and series the primaries, getting 230VAC effectively!
It is possible to add sec windings to a toroid, as they are the outside layer, but the first solution is easier...
There may be some soft start deriving AC from the primaries which is set to 115VAC, but I'm sure I can work that out.
(Maybe some Honcho Gunslinger can provide me with the primary circuit, so I can start thinking...?)
The toroids may get a littlebit warmer, because of 50Hz operation, but I think this won't be a big problem since my FLH+FLL-C-FRH-FRL-SR-SL application has only 2 power hungry channels: the two bass biamped parts of the Front channels.
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#77465 - 06/19/06 07:08 AM Re: Transformer
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Barend,

What are you trying to accomplish with the mod? It's been about 20 years since my last electrical engineering courses...so I'm a bit rusty...er...OK...a LOT rusty. :-)
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#77466 - 06/19/06 07:38 AM Re: Transformer
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He's trying to run the amp on 230V/50Hz power without using a separate step-down transformer to produce 120V for it.
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#77467 - 06/19/06 12:00 PM Re: Transformer
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Ah....
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