#77404 - 04/24/06 05:41 PM
**NEWS** Outlaw Amp Breathes New Life
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Desperado
Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
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Gotta tell ya: Been using Crown Electrostatics in one environment at home (my office/basement) for years in a 4 channel in-line array fed from 4 ch material. (Music recorded live in 4 ch). Tonight I found that the 755 which I took out of the living room (replaced it with a 7700) made the Crown electrostats come to life. They been resurrected. The have NEVER sounded this good. Thanks outlaws
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Living Room: 5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room 990/7700/6-KEF-107s/LFM1 x 2/ SMS Awaiting Trinnov Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83 Old Sony 60" SXRD TV Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones
My "Man-cave": 4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!! 990/755/4-KEF 107s Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director Alesis 16x4x2 mixer Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38 Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3
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#77406 - 05/24/06 02:34 PM
Re: **NEWS** Outlaw Amp Breathes New Life
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Deputy Gunslinger
Registered: 03/23/06
Posts: 12
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All,
I am currently an Energy owner Energy Reference 22.2 Energy EFX surround speakers
I am looking for comparable speakers
I am building a Home Theater room I am going 7.1 and the speakers will be eventually mated with Outlaw 7x200 Amp.
Do you think I really need to upgrade?
I like to keep cost down but I also want nice warm sounding speakers. they will be used for Home Theater and Music 60/40
How are AV123 or Axioms?
What do you recommend?
Thanks all for your help
Greg
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#77407 - 05/24/06 05:43 PM
Re: **NEWS** Outlaw Amp Breathes New Life
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 76
Loc: Beaverton
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nfaguys, congrats on your Crown resurrection. I had a similar epiphany a few months ago with my electrostats (Martin Logan reQuest) when I moved to the 7500 (7700 sans 2 channels).
Previously, I passively bi-amped my reQuests with a Classe CAV-75 then the Outlaw 7125. The 7125 was a bit of an improvement over the CAV-75 and gave me an additional channel to boot so I sold my Classe.
Then, when it was available as part of the 7125 -> 7500 or 7700 upgrade program, I auditioned the 7500. I really hoped the 7125 and the 7500 would sound the same, especially so I could put the $500 difference towards a new sub-woofer. The 7500, however, provided a dramatic improvement and really opened up the speakers, especially in the mids and highs. I fell in love again with my reQuests. I kept the 7500 and returned the 7125.
Thank you Outlaw!
Rob
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Yamaha CX-A5000 pre-pro Outlaw 7500 Oppo BDP-83 Samsung 65" LED TV Front: Martin Logan reQuests & Logos Surround: Martin Logan Fresco i via Outlaw OAWA3 Sub: ACI Maestro w/ ICE amp
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#77408 - 05/25/06 09:04 AM
Re: **NEWS** Outlaw Amp Breathes New Life
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Desperado
Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
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Rob. Once again the outlaw amps proved extremely helpful. I am glad to know that othgers have experienced the same. So congrats to you, too. In fact I am going to replace my preamp(s) [takes two of them since that particular room is a 4 ch room] with a 970 pre/pro. May be "overkill" but WTF (or W.T.H.). I am currently using two Crown SL2 preamps for the 4 channels. I found that the 990's 7.1 direct with my choice of assignment does well in the living room (hybrid 5.1 and 4 ch). So in my 4 ch room the 970 will use 7.1 for the 4 ch. Other inputs will be stereo, bypass or upsample depending. Most of the equipment there is analog. One coax one optical. Video not needed. A major advantage will be the remote, which I don't have now. This is in my "office"..... Hey !!!!! You outlaws with "offices" does this mean tax deduction???? Scott: good selling point??
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Living Room: 5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room 990/7700/6-KEF-107s/LFM1 x 2/ SMS Awaiting Trinnov Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83 Old Sony 60" SXRD TV Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones
My "Man-cave": 4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!! 990/755/4-KEF 107s Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director Alesis 16x4x2 mixer Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38 Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3
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#77410 - 05/25/06 12:01 PM
Re: **NEWS** Outlaw Amp Breathes New Life
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Desperado
Registered: 04/19/05
Posts: 361
Loc: Plano, TX
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Originally posted by nfaguys: Hey !!!!! You outlaws with "offices" does this mean tax deduction????
If that were the case, we'd all have 990s&7700s in our "offices" If your business is audio/video, it's easy to write it off for customer demo use. The only other way to pull it off is if you can prove that it's used for a business critical purpose (ie, videoconferencing, etc). Otherwise, it would be a tough sell.
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#77411 - 05/25/06 02:15 PM
Re: **NEWS** Outlaw Amp Breathes New Life
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Desperado
Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
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(1) sluggo wrote:
The only other way to pull it off is if you can prove that it's used for a business critical purpose (ie, videoconferencing, etc). Otherwise, it would be a tough sell
Hey slugg: how 'bout for those who have a "waiting room". Part of "office eqpt?"
(2)gonk wrote:
You're making some great use of analog direct inputs, nfaguys. It's always fun to hear about systems that "think outside the box" to achieve specific goals.
This was a no-brainer, gonk. Those directs were just sitting there awaitin' fer me. So for those who need multiple inputs (SACD, DVD-A, and in my case 4 channel in-line) and don't want to spend the money on VEKTOR eqpt...if they still make the switcher...a cheap and easy way is patch bay. Just "normal" whichever you wish (probably SACD) and when you use the other format just cross patch. Been doin' it for years with other (older audio) stuff.
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Living Room: 5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room 990/7700/6-KEF-107s/LFM1 x 2/ SMS Awaiting Trinnov Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83 Old Sony 60" SXRD TV Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones
My "Man-cave": 4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!! 990/755/4-KEF 107s Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director Alesis 16x4x2 mixer Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38 Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3
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#77412 - 05/25/06 04:49 PM
Re: **NEWS** Outlaw Amp Breathes New Life
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Desperado
Registered: 04/19/05
Posts: 361
Loc: Plano, TX
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Originally posted by nfaguys: Hey slugg: how 'bout for those who have a "waiting room". Part of "office eqpt?" You wrote "office" but I read "home office." You really do have an office if you have a waiting room If you have a standalone office, or part of your house that is a dedicated office that is covered by IRS home office deduction rules, whatever improvements you make fall under those same rules. But please check with your tax accountant - I don't want the bad news I want to know where your office is, so I can come by and "wait"
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#77413 - 05/26/06 12:34 PM
Re: **NEWS** Outlaw Amp Breathes New Life
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Desperado
Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
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Hi Slugg: I was referrineg, in part, to those with real offices. Imagination also helps.
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Living Room: 5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room 990/7700/6-KEF-107s/LFM1 x 2/ SMS Awaiting Trinnov Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83 Old Sony 60" SXRD TV Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones
My "Man-cave": 4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!! 990/755/4-KEF 107s Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director Alesis 16x4x2 mixer Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38 Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3
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