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#77011 - 02/02/06 01:14 AM 7500 ground loop
Tim Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
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Loc: Southeast Texas
I pulled the 7125 from my system last nite and connected the 7500.Turned the system on and before the amp even turned on there was a hum threw my speakers.The problem was my cable line into the modem,disconnected the coaxial into the box and it was gone.The 7125 doesn't have a ground on the plug so it never had this problem.Fixed the problem tonite with a inline coaxial ground loop isolator($14.95) at local audio dealer.I did call the cable company first thing today and have them coming out 2morrow,will have to call them back and canceal~~~IT'S FIXED!!!!..
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#77012 - 02/02/06 07:36 AM Re: 7500 ground loop
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Excellent! Glad to hear you got it fixed so quickly.
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#77013 - 02/02/06 07:43 AM Re: 7500 ground loop
jester7677 Offline
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Registered: 04/15/05
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What effect does the filter have on the picture and sound quality of the cable system?

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#77014 - 02/02/06 09:45 AM Re: 7500 ground loop
gonk Offline
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A filter should not degrade the signal, assuming the cable company is providing you with a signal that is up to snuff. I've run into trouble with the cable company not being able to maintain a strong enough signal to my house to satisfy digital cable boxes and the cable modem, but a service call or four has led to them putting a signal booster in. In that case, the presense or absence of a isolator was irrelevent, but if I had been using one it would probably have compounded the problem. Bottom line: if an isolator negatively effects your signal, I would recommend getting the cable company out to fix your wiring - either by properly grounding the system to eliminate the need for the isolator, or by fixing whatever is giving you a weak signal to start with.
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#77015 - 02/02/06 09:50 AM Re: 7500 ground loop
Tim Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 20
Loc: Southeast Texas
I havn't noticed any negative effects from the isolator.The high def. looked and sounded fine so we're dailed in for now!
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#77016 - 02/06/06 10:07 AM Re: 7500 ground loop
jester7677 Offline
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Registered: 04/15/05
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Well I recieved my 7700 and had a terrible ground loop. The in line filter caused some of the HD channels to start dropping. I had to put a cheater plug on the 7700 to fix the problem at the moment...

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#77017 - 02/06/06 10:24 AM Re: 7500 ground loop
Tim Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 20
Loc: Southeast Texas
I used the Xantech 634-00 ground breaker on my Time Warner Cable HD box.I only get TNT and Discovery channel in HD and they looked good with the Xantech.The cable company's need to get their act together on these ground issues with their equipment!
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#77018 - 02/08/06 05:08 PM Re: 7500 ground loop
ZoFo Offline
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Registered: 12/29/05
Posts: 35
What about using the Ground Lug on Power Conditioners?

Most power bars designed for HT & component style power conditioners all have a Grounding Lug that gives a common ground for all connected equipment. You just run a cable from your component to the Lug and it's supposed to fix all ground loop problem, you might have to ground all of your equipment I am not sure. Has anyone tried using this? I will be getting the 7700 soon, it will be my first 3-prong plug in my rack and if I hear a hum that is the first thing I am going to try, I have heard bad things about using "cheater plugs" on equipment that was designed with the ground in mind.
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#77019 - 02/08/06 08:54 PM Re: 7500 ground loop
jester7677 Offline
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Registered: 04/15/05
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Question I have is which bolt to run a wire from on the Amp to the Ground Lug. I really don't like having the cheater on it at the moment either... frown

I know most are going to say put a filter on the cable system, but that's not the issue. Believe me, I have put time into diagnosing the issue. The issue is either the APC Smart UPS battery backup on a portion of the system (TV, 990, DVD, Cable box, Sat box... it's not on the Amp) or the Amp itself. I'm going to try removing the battery backup as soon as I get back home...

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#77020 - 02/08/06 10:26 PM Re: 7500 ground loop
Ritz Offline
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Registered: 07/03/05
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Loc: NJ/Beijing
I have all my theater stuff connected to a large APC UPS and have used APC UPS's for many years. Unless it's defective, I think it's extremely unlikely to be the source of a ground loop. Most of the APC units have an LED on the back that can indicate if it detects faulty wiring at the outlet it's plugged into. It's almost certainly a loop introduced by your cable box as that is a frequent culprit.

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