Thanks for the help, I have been trying to logon to CS with outlaw, but there seems to be an error on there sever. But by your description it sounds like I have the wrong firmware installed. I have a 970 not the 1070 av reciever. I'm interested in knowing if any other 970 owners have firmware that starts with a ot1070? I will keep trying to contact outlaw CS.

thanks,
mike