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#73196 - 11/20/07 08:26 PM Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
Lizard King Offline
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Registered: 08/30/06
Posts: 425
Loc: NY
Chas,

Please convey your impressions about the 970/7075 pair as opposed to the 1070?
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Outlaw 1070, Anthem MCA5 II amp.
Sony Ps3
Alon 2 Mk2 Loudspeakers
HSU VTF-2 Mk2 sub x2
VAC PA100/100 Tube Amp
ARC SP16-L tube Preamp
Audio Note Dac 2.1 "B" signature
Furutech E-TP80,
Ascend HTM-200, 340C
Sony KDS-55A2020

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#73197 - 11/20/07 10:04 PM Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
chas Offline
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Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 142
Loc: Minnesota
Very very very similar performance. I would say bass sounds a little "drier" (for lack of a better term) with the 970/7075 combo....bass sounded a little "thicker" with the 1070 (maybe due to the shared large capacitance?). Sounds in movies seem a little crisper in each speaker with the 970/7075. For example I was trying out private ryan (dts) and background voices really popped out in a way that I don't ever remember before.

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#73198 - 11/21/07 03:21 AM Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
Lizard King Offline
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Registered: 08/30/06
Posts: 425
Loc: NY
Hey Chas,

Do you use the Multi Channel Analog Input in Bypass mode with the toggle switch all the way up?

How is music sounding with the combo now?
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Outlaw 1070, Anthem MCA5 II amp.
Sony Ps3
Alon 2 Mk2 Loudspeakers
HSU VTF-2 Mk2 sub x2
VAC PA100/100 Tube Amp
ARC SP16-L tube Preamp
Audio Note Dac 2.1 "B" signature
Furutech E-TP80,
Ascend HTM-200, 340C
Sony KDS-55A2020

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#73199 - 11/21/07 02:29 PM Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
chas Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 142
Loc: Minnesota
I prefer bypass without a sub. Music sounds about the same to me on the 970/7075 and the 1070.

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#73200 - 11/21/07 10:03 PM Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
Lizard King Offline
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Registered: 08/30/06
Posts: 425
Loc: NY
Argh, you put more money into the 970 and amp yet no gains :-(
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Outlaw 1070, Anthem MCA5 II amp.
Sony Ps3
Alon 2 Mk2 Loudspeakers
HSU VTF-2 Mk2 sub x2
VAC PA100/100 Tube Amp
ARC SP16-L tube Preamp
Audio Note Dac 2.1 "B" signature
Furutech E-TP80,
Ascend HTM-200, 340C
Sony KDS-55A2020

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#73201 - 11/21/07 11:02 PM Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
nomoneybutgoodsound Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 07/21/06
Posts: 164
Loc: Mission,BC
The gain would be more available power. If I am not mistaken, the 1070 consumes 855watts, while the 7075 consumes 1200watts. While the specs show 65 w vs 75 w, I think the 7075 would provide more headroom. But I could be mistaken.

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#73202 - 11/21/07 11:13 PM Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
BloggingITGuy Offline
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Registered: 02/20/06
Posts: 446
Loc: Beaverton, Oregon
Gain doesn't necessarily mean more available power if I am not mistaken.

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#73203 - 11/23/07 11:56 PM Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
chas Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 142
Loc: Minnesota
More headroom is really the only benefit I expected from the 970/7075 combo. The main reason for buying was to switch to seperates with a good deal on the combo, and build some Outlaw bucks towards the next generation processor.

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#73204 - 11/24/07 12:58 AM Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
Lizard King Offline
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Registered: 08/30/06
Posts: 425
Loc: NY
chas,

Let the new units break in and then convey the changes in SQ compared to your 1070.

I am stil waiting for my Anthem MCA 5 series 2 amp to arrive.
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Outlaw 1070, Anthem MCA5 II amp.
Sony Ps3
Alon 2 Mk2 Loudspeakers
HSU VTF-2 Mk2 sub x2
VAC PA100/100 Tube Amp
ARC SP16-L tube Preamp
Audio Note Dac 2.1 "B" signature
Furutech E-TP80,
Ascend HTM-200, 340C
Sony KDS-55A2020

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#73205 - 11/26/07 12:58 AM Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
John Galt Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 11/03/05
Posts: 139
Loc: Canada
David,

If you still looking for an alternative, perhaps the Sherwood Newcastle R-872 is worth a try. It supports HDMI 1.3a and decodes TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. Personally, I wouldn't buy a new receiver at this stage of the game without HDMI 1.3a support and support for the new codecs. Sherwood Newcastle also has a decent reputation for audio sound quality. I believe it's listed around $1000.

If you re-configure your cable box/satellite box to use the analog outputs does this help at all with the lock-ups? Just wondering if you can get your system in a usable state until the next round of Outlaw products come out...who knows, maybe they'll offer some sort of a trade-up program.

Good luck,
-John

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