#73246 - 12/01/07 06:13 AM
Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
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Desperado
Registered: 08/30/06
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Loc: NY
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Hey Everyone, I went to an audiophile meeting tonight and met a Cable manufacturer who is local here. He makes good stuff at real world prices Check out his website: http://www.myaudiocables.com/. I am gonna try some Dvd audio discs through the system
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#73247 - 12/02/07 04:47 AM
Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/18/02
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Loc: Tucson, AZ USA
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Lizard King - I'm kind of amazed that what you're hearing from your new amp is exactly what I noticed with the more powerful Emotiva receiver I tried, but (hopefully!) without the qualities I found undesirable in the Emotiva. It's becoming increasingly clear to me that more power provides benefits even for those of us who don't listen loud. I wonder why... I've read many times that even inefficient speakers are using only a few watts of power at normal listening levels. And yeah... early CD's and CD players sounded *awful*. I remember thinking at the time... "this media ain't gonna make it" I have to disagree with you, to some extent, about compressed music files. I use 200 kps (or whatever the units are) MP4's on my Zune with a good set of 'phones, and it doesn't sound half-bad to me for the purpose. I never have been able to find an MP3 codec I like though. Gonk - Hey, that's great news about the Analog Devices DAC in the 990. I think that's the exact same DAC used in my Philips CD player that I love so much. I'm getting more and more anxious to upgrade! Videodrome - Valid point about out-of-print stuff on vinyl. Actually, I've got a couple hundred old LP's (lots of obscure stuff from the "British Invasion" back in the 60's) that I'd like to transfer to CD or FLAC or something. But I just haven't found the time or money to do it. I'd need to buy a decent TT, cart and phono-preamp, plus a good USB-type soundcard (I use a laptop), to get the job done to my satisfaction.
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#73248 - 12/03/07 01:35 PM
Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
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Desperado
Registered: 08/30/06
Posts: 425
Loc: NY
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David,
No doubt we have the same type of gains. What is the rest of system?
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#73249 - 12/11/07 12:53 PM
Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 06/11/06
Posts: 32
Loc: Michigan
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This has been a good and interesting thread as I see myself in the same situation maybe with slightly different reasons. I've had my 1070 since July 2006. It's still buggy, mostly with no audio when first turned on, but that would not be a reason for me to switch as I just turn it off and back on and I'm good to go. The puzzling part of this is, I would think this would be easy to diagnose since it's so predictable. I've been through all the updates and even beta tested firmware for them at one point. Anyway, I'm interested in HDMI 1.3a technology for my new components in the next 6 months. I realize I can use analogue to pass the new uncompressed audio with a few of the new HD players but I just feel I want to try and tackle HDMI, and I know the problems I may have, I spend hours reading the forums on this subject. I don't think I will miss the SQ of the 1070 because of the less than ideal speaker setup I use in this particular room. I'm using 7 Speakercraft AIM8-Level-3 in ceiling speakers with a HSU MKIII sub with Behrenger DSP1124 to equalize the sub. The primary use is HT, then low to mid level background music. I'm thinking of trying either a Denon 3808 or Onkyo 8505, the Denon seems to be less buggy than the Onkyo in the forums. At any rate, what would the 1070 be worth? Half price? Anyone interested? It is mint condition with probably less than 70 hours. Thanks, Tom
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#73250 - 12/13/07 12:21 AM
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Desperado
Registered: 08/30/06
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Loc: NY
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Tom,
The Denon Recivers sound like crap when playing music.
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#73251 - 12/13/07 02:28 AM
Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 06/11/06
Posts: 32
Loc: Michigan
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Lizard King - Yes I know I have my work cut out for me finding something that will sound good AND have all the latest Audio Cdecs, features and HDMI inputs. I have a feeling it's going to be quite expensive. Thanks, Tom
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#73252 - 12/14/07 05:57 AM
Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 04/18/02
Posts: 24
Loc: Tucson, AZ USA
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Tom - As you probably know from reading this thread, I've listened to almost a half-dozen AVR's here in my home over the past year or so, and none of them sounded as good (most not nearly as good) as the 1070.
However, I seem to be much more critical of sound quality when listening to music in 2.1 mode. If I used my system solely for HT and background music as you do, I think I could have been reasonably satisfied with most of them I tried..... although the Denon receiver I brought home was *not* one of them. That thing sounded thin and lifeless to me even on old I Love Lucy reruns. Really!!
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#73253 - 12/14/07 12:11 PM
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Gunslinger
Registered: 06/11/06
Posts: 32
Loc: Michigan
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David_W - I will try no less than 3 or 4 brands when I do this, so I appreciate the heads up on Denon. I have a completely different room and 2 channel stereo for Redbook CD music listening so this will indead be 98% for HT. Thanks, Tom
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#73254 - 12/15/07 05:42 AM
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Desperado
Registered: 08/30/06
Posts: 425
Loc: NY
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The 1070 is an awesome receiver. I just bought a Anthem Premap and i wil have to sell my 1070. If someone wants it, send me a message.
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#73255 - 12/24/07 01:03 AM
Re: Alternatives to the 1070?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 18
Loc: Harleysville, PA
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I'm thinking about doing the same.... I loved the sound of my 1070, but I'm tired of all the dang bugs!!! Initially I was thinking about switching to an Outlaw 970/7075 combo, but I'm afraid to... I'm tired of the wife riding my back about the no audio, freeze, & hissing issues & being embrassed when one of these issues happens while I'm entertaining family and friends. So I'm afraid to take that chance again with an Outlaw product. I'm thinking about switching to Rotel RSX-1058, albeit this is more than your price point, but this is what I'm considering... Hopefully, this helps.
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