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#71190 - 09/03/05 09:58 AM 1070 Sub Test Tone 10 db hot
Ranger1000 Offline
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When calibrating my sub I noticed that the 1070's internal sub test tone runs about 10 db hot. So when I first calibrated using the 1070 internal test tones matching speaker levels with sub level I would get very lttle base when actually playing a movie. I then calibrated the speakers with the sub using AVIA and got things sounding the way they should in the bass department. I went back and ran the 1070's internal sub tone and sure enough it was at least 10 db hot compared to the speaker levels.

As a side note, I have an SVS pb12/plus sub and one of my test movies I use is the crash scene in Flight of the Phoenix. I measured 109 Db on my SPL, the whole house was shaking. That was way too loud!

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#71191 - 09/03/05 04:00 PM Re: 1070 Sub Test Tone 10 db hot
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Yes but have you tried other modes yet. I finally got the sub to respond on dvd as well, sounds great!. (SVS 20-39/S700) But I cannot get it in any other mode. Play'd DVD-a, digital cable radio channels, cd's my whole family asked me where the thump thump was.. Ouputs just don't seem to be driving the amp well enuf. Its all maxed and I cannot get it. Also on the DVD-a, if I don't use the multi-analog inputs, and choose optical for sound, It cuts out on the first 2 seconds of every song. And there's no output from my Video 1 Rec Video output.. Aaand it the weekend, so I guess I just keep play'n.
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#71192 - 09/03/05 04:31 PM Re: 1070 Sub Test Tone 10 db hot
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If your cd’s are cutting out on the first two seconds of songs when connected with digital audio cables, then you’ve got “auto-polling” turned on. The auto-polling feature is designed primarily for cable boxes that output some channels in digital but the rest in analog. If your connection is digital only, turn the auto poll feature “off”. This feature is in the input configuration menu for each source.

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#71193 - 09/03/05 06:00 PM Re: 1070 Sub Test Tone 10 db hot
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Also on the DVD-a, if I don't use the multi-analog inputs, and choose optical for sound, It cuts out on the first 2 seconds of every song.
DVD-Audio output through optical is not truly DVD-Audio. It is actually downmixed Dolby Digital 2.0. As for the behavior of cutting off, it sounds like Scott has you covered.
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#71194 - 09/03/05 06:36 PM Re: 1070 Sub Test Tone 10 db hot
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Yes, DVD-A and SACD require the multi-channel inputs. I have things pretty much "dialed in" now where movies and SACD/DVD-A are sounding great but haven't tried many formats other than dolby digital. For now I am using the 1070's bass management toggle set to digital which means the 1070 is handling bass management. Intially I had it set to bypass so that my Denon 3910 would do the BM but had some problems which requires further investigation.

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#71195 - 09/03/05 06:44 PM Re: 1070 Sub Test Tone 10 db hot
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Have you tried the HPF/LPF position to see how it compares to the "digital" setting?
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#71196 - 09/03/05 07:46 PM Re: 1070 Sub Test Tone 10 db hot
Ranger1000 Offline
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Isn't that the one with a fixed 80 Hz cross over? Not sure why I would want to use that one.

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#71197 - 09/03/05 10:02 PM Re: 1070 Sub Test Tone 10 db hot
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Yep, that's the 80Hz crossover, but it allows the analog signal to stay in the analog domain all the way through the 1070.
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#71198 - 09/03/05 10:50 PM Re: 1070 Sub Test Tone 10 db hot
sparkyfan Offline
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ok, Scott is right, turn off auto polling and the cut outs go away. Yes Optical will not give you true DVD-a but unfortunately you have to manually change the input, much like we used to do to choose 5 channel direct on the 1050's but a couple more steps now. But the wife isn't gonna do that and already gave me the whats up with that. So I'm glad that's cured. But I've got to figure out the lack of low end on the other formats. We got used to the 1050 adding some umph to normal TV viewing, but the first light on the S700 is barely flickering. Surely its me, others are raving, I'll get it soon.. Gave up for the night since family was coming over.

PS.. I had to upgrade firmware due to my DCT cablebox. Did anyone else have to do this?
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#71199 - 09/03/05 11:22 PM Re: 1070 Sub Test Tone 10 db hot
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I saw a post yesterday indicating that there was a conflict with remote codes between the 1070 and some cable boxes which was not caught until the end of (or possibly after) beta testing, hence the firmware update to fix the problem.
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