I'll give the 80 Hz a try. My front's are quite large Polk RTI150s and I generally have my x-over set to 60 Hertz.

Hey, the 80 Hz setting works pretty good. I think I like it the best of all three for now. I have problems with the middle "bypass" setting not providing enough bass.

Sparkyfan,

I've tried the other surround modes and the bass is right where it should be (again, the 1070's internal tone reads 10 db hot). I do have a problem with the bass managment toggle set to the bypass setting. In this setting, where the bass managment would be done in my DVD player, I get very little bass when playing DVD-A or SACD.

Hmmm, I'll keep trying.. I ended up trimming back the 5 to like -2-1-2+1+1 and the sub at +8 and turn the base tone up to +4 and I'm getting some base at moderate listening levels. But turn it up and it really starts to romp. Spent all day yesterday with the manual. And there's no lie to what the Outlaws say. Read the manual. I had to chuckle at that one since I was relatively guilty. I'm not liking the Dol+plIIx default though. If I change to Dollb+plII-m while listening to Dig Cable music,things start to sound great. Change to a different channel of music and it goes back to plIIX-c. I cannot make it stick or remember the last surround mode.. I'm sure I don't understand all the surround modes but why do I want to default to plIIx when I have a 5.1 system?
Not alot of time to play with it today.. Maybe this evening..

Thanks!!

I wonder if by running the sub 10db hot if Outlaw is trying to compensate for the lack of sensitivity in RS SPL meters? Here is a link on the subject from SVS for what it is worth.

http://www.svsubwoofers.com/faq_rscomp.htm

I've always calibrated the sub by ear anyway because the RS never felt right, now I know why. My related problem is that there is not enough +trim available on the surround channels for my very efficient sat speakers. On my previous Outlaw 950 system with 65W Adcom amp they were within 1 dB or so of the others. Now they are 10+. In other words, even when maxed out they are still not at the same level as the other speakers which are around +2. Would the workaround be to just manually knock off a few dB from the other speakers?

That's what I'd try jlib.

I wasn't thinking very deeply. I just calibrated to 70dB instead of 75dB (basically I calibrated everything to the surrounds). Good enough.

Just thought I'd post an update. After reading, rewiring a bit, fooling around, and phone call to Outlaw, it seems most of all my issues are resolved and my system is sounding a whole lot better.

Even though I do understand things more, I still went on record as not liking how the default modes work. But Steve at Outlaw provided me with the workarounds and a bit of education about base management at the same time. The base management seems to be quite a challenge for me since my living room is 28x32. I did however express my opinion that the default digital mode should stick if changed in the configuration menu. Or at least add the choice of Auto in the digital audio mode so I can choose off of it. But that's just 1 opinion.

I did calibrate my 7.1 with the tones from the DVD player and ther rest with the 1070 just so that both sources were calibrated. But that may change as I play more or get Avia out. I didn't worry to much about the sub since I seem to always be in there trimming up or down. Which reminds me... I wish the trim menu would remember the last speaker you trimmed, which is usually my sub..

Anyway, it's all good. I'm really happy with the way it's performing. And the support is fantastic.

Which by the way, Outlaws if you haven't walked behind Steve and patted him on the back lately, please do so. He's a marvelous resource!

I wondered about that , too, but the manual says that that mode senses if you have rear surrounds and emulates regular plII if not. So, the x is not the problem, just the lack of being able to save your -C/-M preferences.