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#69734 - 11/18/09 12:57 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 & bitstream audio loss on 990
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
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Well I got the BDP-83 anyway and I have the same audio dropout issue. I did connect via 7.1 Direct based on Gonks advice. For my work around I just swap back to 7.1 direct, select my track and then switch to optical. I'm sure they will eventually fix it with firmware but since I rarely change tracks manually it isn't much of a problem.
The system sounds great on 7.1 Direct but in my system I really do prefer the Optical input to the 990 in upsample 2.2. Even with the dropout issue it just sounds better. That's a good sign for the 990s DACs.
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Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


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Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
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#69735 - 11/19/09 02:39 AM Re: Oppo BDP-83 & bitstream audio loss on 990
audionirvana Offline
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Registered: 10/24/07
Posts: 43
Loc: Iowa
XenonMan

Try the 2 ch outs of the Oppo, the DAC's are better than the Oppo 7.1 DAC's.

You may like the sound better than the Outlaw DAC's via optical.
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#69736 - 11/19/09 03:56 AM Re: Oppo BDP-83 & bitstream audio loss on 990
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 2676
Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
Thanks for the advice Audionirvana. When I diassemble the rack next week to install the 886 I'll have enough room for some extra wires.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#69737 - 11/19/09 04:19 AM Re: Oppo BDP-83 & bitstream audio loss on 990
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
It's worth a try - the 83's analog section (7.1, not stereo) stacked up remarkably well against the 885 with Audyssey. My wife actually preferred the 83's 7.1 analog output to the HDMI for CD listening the one time that I staged an unintentional listening test with her. I haven't ever wrangled in an extra two cables to compare the stereo analog output as well, though.
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#82255 - 01/28/10 09:13 PM Oppo BDP-83 SE - no bitstream audio loss on 990 [Re: audionirvana]
audionirvana Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 10/24/07
Posts: 43
Loc: Iowa
Some good news, the problem of the Oppo losing a bitstream signal on the 990 when changing tracks on cd's does not occur on the 83SE.
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#82257 - 01/28/10 10:16 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 SE - no bitstream audio loss on 990 [Re: audionirvana]
Brandon B Offline
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Registered: 05/01/02
Posts: 130
Loc: Louse Angeles, CA
So since no one answered me in my thread . . .

What were the bass issues in the 990? I recently bought a second hand one, pretty much specifically for use as a multichannel analog preamp, and kinda want to know the current state of what it does if I am feeding it 5.1/7.1 analog (I want it to do basically nothing except act as a volume control).

Thanks

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#82269 - 01/30/10 09:23 AM Re: Oppo BDP-83 SE - no bitstream audio loss on 990 [Re: Brandon B]
Alexandru Mihaita Offline
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Registered: 04/17/07
Posts: 132
Loc: Springfield, PA
990 will apply bass management if your speakers are set to anything but large. Since bass management is applied in the digital domain, 990 will convert the input signal to digital, apply bass management, then convert back to analog before the signal reaches the volume control circuitry.
This is called a "bug" because the behavior is different from what "7.1 analog direct" means and also what the 990 bass management matrix indicates.
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#82273 - 01/30/10 12:56 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 SE - no bitstream audio loss on 9 [Re: Alexandru Mihaita]
Brandon B Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 05/01/02
Posts: 130
Loc: Louse Angeles, CA
Thanks. Can work with that.

Back (closer to) on topic. Anyone compared the 83 vs. the 83SE's analog out (stereo or mch) through the 990 when NOT engaging the 990's A/D/A bass management? This was my main reason for asking as I was not going to spring for an SE if it was going through a reconversion process.

I know Gonk is looking to do so at some point, and have read a bunch of comparisons at AVS, but specifics with the 990 in the loop are always welcome.


Edited by Brandon B (01/30/10 12:56 PM)

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#82306 - 01/31/10 02:05 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 SE - no bitstream audio loss on 9 [Re: Brandon B]
audionirvana Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 10/24/07
Posts: 43
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: Brandon B
Thanks. Can work with that.

Back (closer to) on topic. Anyone compared the 83 vs. the 83SE's analog out (stereo or mch) through the 990 when NOT engaging the 990's A/D/A bass management? This was my main reason for asking as I was not going to spring for an SE if it was going through a reconversion process.

I know Gonk is looking to do so at some point, and have read a bunch of comparisons at AVS, but specifics with the 990 in the loop are always welcome.


My review is not in depth as I have only had the SE a week, but see if it helps. I have a 990 and primarily use it 7.1 all speakers Large, or in 2CH analog. I am very happy with the SE.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1194011&page=110
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