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#687 - 01/24/02 10:46 AM Re: DTS & 1050's 6.1 capability
gonk Offline
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True, I had to enable DTS on my Panasonic -- by default it was set up to not pass a DTS signal.

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#688 - 01/24/02 10:56 AM Re: DTS & 1050's 6.1 capability
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Yea, I did go in and change the setting to DTS. The Sony has two settings, one for Dolby Digital and one for DTS. They were both orginally set to PCM and I changed them to the DD and DTS settings. Maybe it's a one or the other situation? I'll have to play around with the Sony some more tonight.
As far as the "PCM" reference, I ment the 5.1 outputs on the Sony.

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#689 - 01/24/02 02:14 PM Re: DTS & 1050's 6.1 capability
Matthew Hill Offline
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I'm confused... how can the 1050 matrix out a surround channel when using the 5.1 inputs? I thought the 1050 did all its matrix decoding in the digital domain, and I thought the 5.1 inputs bypassed the A-D-A conversion, so that they could be used with high resolution formats like DVD-A and SACD without mucking up the signal. Am I missing something?
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#690 - 01/25/02 09:04 AM Re: DTS & 1050's 6.1 capability
Richard_R Offline
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Success! I disconnected my 5.1 analog out cables along with the audio left/right which I had hooked up to a RF modulator so I could watch DVD's on the upstairs TV. Must have been some type of conflict in the Sony.
DTS is nice.
Thanks for the help.
Richard R

[This message has been edited by Richard_R (edited January 25, 2002).]

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#691 - 01/25/02 04:04 PM Re: DTS & 1050's 6.1 capability
Xen Offline
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So in order for the 6.1 to work, you have to have a direct feed from the DVD Player to the 1050? No Optical Cables used?

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#692 - 01/25/02 04:18 PM Re: DTS & 1050's 6.1 capability
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I never realized it until psklenar mentioned it in this thread, but it turns out that the 1050 can apply the 6.1 surround decoding to the 5.1 analog input (just dug into the manual a bit, page 28). Very interesting. That means that 6.1 Surround will work for Dolby Digital audio decoded by the 1050 (digital connection, optical or coaxial) and for any 5.1 analog input (Dolby Digital, DTS, DVD-Audio, or multi-channel SACD).

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#693 - 01/25/02 04:30 PM Re: DTS & 1050's 6.1 capability
Richard_R Offline
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Now that I have everthing working, I'm going to try the 6.1 feature on the DTS ES signal coming into the 1050 via the 5.1 direct. I wonder how much it will add to the listening experience and what the 1050 will show on the display screen: DTS, Prologic or something else? God, I love to tinker!

Richard R

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#694 - 01/25/02 04:31 PM Re: DTS & 1050's 6.1 capability
potus Offline
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I just ordered the 1050 and hopefully it will be here tomm. My DVD player Pany Rp56 does not have 5.1 out, so i won't be able to get 6.1 on DTS tracks?

What DVD players have 5.1 out so i could get DTS 6.1, or is there another option?

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#695 - 01/25/02 04:44 PM Re: DTS & 1050's 6.1 capability
Richard_R Offline
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Loc: Milwaukee, WI, USA
Potus,
I was considering the RP56 because I just got a 65" RPTV and the Sony is not progressive scan but I didn't realize it didn't have the 5.1 outs. So it probably doesn't decode DD or DTS. I guess you can't have everything for $230. I've heard a lot of good things about the RP56. Best bang for the buck.

Richard R

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#696 - 01/25/02 05:18 PM Re: DTS & 1050's 6.1 capability
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Quote:
Originally posted by potus:
What DVD players have 5.1 out so i could get DTS 6.1, or is there another option?


There are a fair number of DVD players around with 5.1 outputs, but a lot of them only decode Dolby Digital internally -- so you still wouldn't be able to get DTS 6.1. The Panasonic RP-91 will decode DTS internally, but it's the only Panasonic player I'm aware of that will. I glanced at Toshiba's site and couldn't find any players that decode DTS internally. Similar results from Pioneer's site, and I couldn't even find one in Sony's current line-up that clearly said it had internal DTS decoding (the DVP-NS700P may, but it's not clear). Basically, internal DTS decoding is rare, although it is a standard feature for players to be able to pass a DTS signal to the digital output. Most people are turning to the receiver or pre/pro to get DTS-ES capability.

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