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#66992 - 01/05/08 05:00 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
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The format war and HDMI's version stew are good reasons to vent a bit, Vince.
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I had to generate fake business cards to get in...
Cost aside, I think this is part of the reason that Outlaw prefers HE show. Anybody can get into HE, but you have to be "in the business" (or at least look that way) to get into CES.
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#66993 - 01/05/08 06:52 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
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Originally posted by gonk:
Based on some news from October, we shouldn't expect anything sooner than this spring...
The October news had mentioned the new pre-pro being delayed due to waiting on chipsets from Cirrus. Here is some more news about the chip-maker's delay:

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-04-2008/0004730777&EDATE=
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#66994 - 01/05/08 07:01 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
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Such movie nutcases! Music is what matters and moves the soul, not movies.

I am also looking forward to Blu-Ray and HDMI 1.3 but for the HD audio, not just the video. I already have HD and my Denon upconverts to HD 1080P with such grace.

The industry is geared to HT and movies yet never forget, music is what matters.

Do not forget your roots/passions!

For two channel music I am pleased to still be using my 1070 as a preamp over a 3k dedicated AV unit. (the DVD multi-channel Analog bypass with analog bass mgmt.)

Should I be able to pull my next attempt off, I should be happy. I will try and get out my old tube preamp (should it still work after 9 years)and use it with an Audio/video switch box.


I will use the tube preamp for two channel and wait patiently for the next Outlaw Preamp.
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#66995 - 01/05/08 08:28 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
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Originally posted by sdurani:
The October news had mentioned the new pre-pro being delayed due to waiting on chipsets from Cirrus. Here is some more news about the chip-maker's delay:

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-04-2008/0004730777&EDATE=
Is that the right article, Sanjay? Looks like you may have pasted the wrong link in there...
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#66996 - 01/05/08 11:39 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
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I wasn't able to find any mention via Google of a delay of production of that chip other than the Outlaw announcement.

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#66997 - 01/06/08 06:08 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
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Originally posted by gonk:
Is that the right article, Sanjay? Looks like you may have pasted the wrong link in there...
Wups, my mistake. Hopefully this link should work:

http://www.avrevforum.com/showthread.php?t=1377
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#66998 - 01/06/08 06:46 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
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Ah-ha. And, of course, ouch.
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The reason for the shortage in fully functional HDMI 1.3-based receivers is delays in one of the most popular chipsets from Cirrus Logic that was promised for a March 2007 delivery. It was then reportedly redesigned after CEDIA 2007 in September with a promised (and missed) release date of December 2007. Multiple sources tell AVRev.com that the new chip from Cirrus Logic is far better with the post-CEDIA changes. Specifically, the chip is more simple and more stable, yet consumers struggle to understand why they can’t find an effective HDMI 1.3 solution for their home theater systems.
Talk about a truly miserable position for electronics manufacturers to be in. This paragraph says it all. You have an untold number of manufacturers who probably started developing new hardware platforms back in 2006 (or before) based on using the 49700 as the digital heart, and if the December date gets missed by even a few weeks those companies are facing a delay of almost a full year. Do you scrap a significant portion of both hardware and software design and try to use TI hardware instead? Do you tough it out and wait for Cirrus to deliver, all the while watching potential business go to competitors who happened to decide to use TI instead? And if you do wait, do you grab the chips from Cirrus and dump hardware straight into sales channels or do you spend the time (likely measured in months) to make sure all the million and one interconnected pieces of hardware and software are working properly together? That's a real mess...
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#66999 - 01/06/08 09:50 PM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
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Originally posted by gonk:
You have an untold number of manufacturers who probably started developing new hardware platforms back in 2006 (or before) based on using the 49700 as the digital heart, and if the December date gets missed by even a few weeks those companies are facing a delay of almost a full year.
Indeed, some had to release their new pre-pros as is. Off the top of my head I can think of nine manufacturers that have HDMI-based pre-pros without decoders for the new audio codecs: Anthem, AudioLab, Cary, Denon Professional, Halcro, Lexicon, Mark Levinson, NAD and Rotel.
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#67000 - 01/07/08 12:14 AM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
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You can add Integra Research to the list. They released their RDC-7.1 TWO years ago with HDMI.

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#67001 - 01/07/08 01:18 AM Re: new pre-amp with HDMI???
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Avoid the Integra and most other AV units as theyarde only good for surroung and suck for music. I will sell my Anthem AVM-30, any one want it?
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Outlaw 1070, Anthem MCA5 II amp.
Sony Ps3
Alon 2 Mk2 Loudspeakers
HSU VTF-2 Mk2 sub x2
VAC PA100/100 Tube Amp
ARC SP16-L tube Preamp
Audio Note Dac 2.1 "B" signature
Furutech E-TP80,
Ascend HTM-200, 340C
Sony KDS-55A2020

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