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#66744 - 11/15/07 10:31 PM My wish list for 990 menu options
Lee Bailey Offline
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Here's a few items I'd like to see added to the 990 setup menus:

1. Speaker Trim adjustments per input.
2. Subwoofer Trim adjustment per input.
3. LFE adjustment.
4. Remove the 2 channel sub offset.
5. Finer increments for speaker delay settings.(less than 1ft/.3m)

Anyone have something more to add?
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#66745 - 11/16/07 05:06 AM Re: My wish list for 990 menu options
PodBoy Offline
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Curious as to why you think they should remove the 2 Ch offset? At least it is a step in the right direction for the sub trim you are looking for.

Seems like a feature some might use. Presuming, of course, keeping it in doesn't prevent themn from doing something like the trims.

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#66746 - 11/16/07 04:07 PM Re: My wish list for 990 menu options
butchgo Offline
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One thing I would like to see is in the crossover adjustment. It would be nice to have 10Hz increments instead of the 20Hz.
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#66747 - 11/16/07 06:07 PM Re: My wish list for 990 menu options
Lee Bailey Offline
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Registered: 06/22/01
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Loc: Madera,CA.USA
Quote:
Originally posted by PodBoy:
Curious as to why you think they should remove the 2 Ch offset? At least it is a step in the right direction for the sub trim you are looking for.

Seems like a feature some might use. Presuming, of course, keeping it in doesn't prevent themn from doing something like the trims.
Shouldn't need the offset, if you can adjust the trims per input. Right now it is a global setting.
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#66748 - 11/18/07 03:59 PM Re: My wish list for 990 menu options
Rafael Offline
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Registered: 11/16/07
Posts: 3
Loc: NW FL
Quote:
Originally posted by Lee Bailey:
Here's a few items I'd like to see added to the 990 setup menus:

1. Speaker Trim adjustments per input.
2. Subwoofer Trim adjustment per input.
3. LFE adjustment.
4. Remove the 2 channel sub offset.
5. Finer increments for speaker delay settings.(less than 1ft/.3m)

Anyone have something more to add?
+1 on these options, with separate DD and DTS adjustment for #3. Also,

6. DD, DTS, PCM, and DPLIIx should be separate surround modes in the menu. Selecting DD decoding would help with sources such as cable boxes and DVRs, considering the 990 takes about half a second to lock in the signal and some premium channel movies don't have a silent pause at the beginning (about 1 sec) like DVDs. Also, some digital outputs (i.e. DVD) are better than others, so the 990 may take even longer than usual to lock in the DD bitstream. As it is, I miss the first 0.5 secs of my CDs' first track unless I stop and replay or go analog.

7. A separate auto mode (not a surround mode per se, but a setting in the menus) that will lock in a signal and select a processing mode for you, just like the 990 does now. All you do is select auto and the processing mode you want.

8. A bypass mode setting for the 7.1 inputs.

9. EQ per channel?
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#66749 - 11/18/07 11:16 PM Re: My wish list for 990 menu options
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
Lee's initial suggestions are pretty good. Item 4 only being an option if 2 were already added, of course, and even then I think it might be worth retaining. I also wouldn't mind seeing a bypass mode for the 7.1 inputs, although from what I understand they've pursued that in the past and run into some problems implementing it.

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6. DD, DTS, PCM, and DPLIIx should be separate surround modes in the menu. Selecting DD decoding would help with sources such as cable boxes and DVRs, considering the 990 takes about half a second to lock in the signal and some premium channel movies don't have a silent pause at the beginning (about 1 sec) like DVDs. Also, some digital outputs (i.e. DVD) are better than others, so the 990 may take even longer than usual to lock in the DD bitstream. As it is, I miss the first 0.5 secs of my CDs' first track unless I stop and replay or go analog.

7. A separate auto mode (not a surround mode per se, but a setting in the menus) that will lock in a signal and select a processing mode for you, just like the 990 does now. All you do is select auto and the processing mode you want.
If I understand this one correctly, you want to offer a way to disable auto-detection. This really isn't an option, especially for devices like cable boxes - the 990 needs to be able to determine if the source is DD, DTS, or PCM, and a cable box will regularly output DD 2.0, DD 5.1, and PCM as you move between channels (or even between 2.0 and 5.1 when going between programs and commercials on HD channels).

On the other hand, the 950 used to offer a mode that would allow forcing a specific decoding mode. That option was only a safe approach for a source like CD for which the signal was assured to always be PCM - locking PCM would be most unfortunate if that input ever happened to encounter DD or DTS bitstreams.
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#66750 - 11/19/07 02:06 AM Re: My wish list for 990 menu options
jrlouie Offline
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Registered: 03/05/06
Posts: 118
Loc: Missouri
I just wish they'd tell us up front (i.e. - now) what the next firmware release will include wink

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#66751 - 11/19/07 03:52 AM Re: My wish list for 990 menu options
Lee Bailey Offline
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Registered: 06/22/01
Posts: 86
Loc: Madera,CA.USA
That's why I'm posting stuff I'd like to see. Also would be nice to get before the new pre/pro comes out.
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SVS 25-31PC
Panasonic BD55K Blu-Ray Player
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#66752 - 11/19/07 07:15 AM Re: My wish list for 990 menu options
Skyblazer Offline
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Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 255
Loc: Spokane, WA
with the new version of the 990 coming out, with they no longer support this 990 with firmware updates from here on out?
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#66753 - 11/19/07 12:24 PM Re: My wish list for 990 menu options
jrlouie Offline
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Registered: 03/05/06
Posts: 118
Loc: Missouri
Due to some issues in the existing 990 firmware, they have stated that they will be providing a firmware release. We've all been waiting for some time wink

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