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#66680 - 11/08/07 08:56 PM 990 vs Denon 3803 features
Lee Bailey Offline
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Registered: 06/22/01
Posts: 86
Loc: Madera,CA.USA
Just doing some comparisons between my older 3803 vs my new 990. There are some features I miss on the Denon, though the new 990/7075 sounds better to me. Unfortunately, I can't format this information properly. But, you can see the differences.

Features---------------Outlaw990---Denon3803
Decoding
  • Dolby Digital----------Y------------Y
  • Dolby Digital EX-------Y------------Y
  • Dolby Virtual Speaker--Y------------N
  • Dolby Headphone--------Y------------N
  • Dolby Pro Logic II-----Y------------Y
  • Dolby Pro Logic IIx----Y------------N
  • DTS--------------------Y------------Y
  • DTS-ES-----------------Y------------Y
  • DTS Neo:6--------------Y------------Y


Video Connections
In/Out
  • Composite-------------5/1----------7/1
  • S-Video---------------5/1----------7/1
  • Component-------------3/1----------2/1
  • DVI-------------------2/1----------0/0
  • Switching--------------Y------------Y
  • Video Transcoding------Y------------Y


Audio Connections
In/Out
  • Digital---------------8/2----------7/1
  • Analog-----------------8------------7


Phono---------------------Y------------Y
Lip Sync Delay/input------Y------------Y
Four Way Crossover--------Y------------N
Low Voltage Trigger-------Y------------Y
Firmware Updating---------Y------------N
Channel Trim per input----N------------Y
LFE Trim------------------N------------Y
Assignable Inputs---------Y------------Y
Rename Devices------------Y------------N
7.1 Channel Pre IN/OUTs---Y------------Y
Multi Zone----------------Y------------Y
Auto Speaker Setup--------Y------------N
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Current Setup:
Samsung HL61A750 LED DLP RPTV
Marantz SR5004 AVR / Outlaw 7075 Amp
L/C/R: Ascend Acoustics 340M/C/M
L&R Surrounds: Ascend Acoustics CBM 170
SVS 25-31PC
Panasonic BD55K Blu-Ray Player
Dishnetwork VIP722 HD/PVR.

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#66681 - 11/08/07 09:17 PM Re: 990 vs Denon 3803 features
BloggingITGuy Offline
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Registered: 02/20/06
Posts: 446
Loc: Beaverton, Oregon
How many digital coax audio ins does the Denon have vs the Outlaw? One of the issues I had with the 990 was fact that it only had 2 digital coax ins.

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#66682 - 11/08/07 09:21 PM Re: 990 vs Denon 3803 features
BloggingITGuy Offline
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Registered: 02/20/06
Posts: 446
Loc: Beaverton, Oregon
I also see you have the Ascend 340s. Do you have the first version or the newer SEs?

What do you think of them?

I've looked at them as one of the speakers I want to audition as a replacement of my Kenwood LCRs.

Also looked at the AV123 X-CS, the upcoming Outlaw LCR, and the Atlantic Technologies 6200e.

Whatever I use, all 3 fronts will be same and used in vertical D'Appolito array position.

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#66683 - 11/08/07 09:38 PM Re: 990 vs Denon 3803 features
Lee Bailey Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 06/22/01
Posts: 86
Loc: Madera,CA.USA
Quote:
Originally posted by BloggingITGuy:
How many digital coax audio ins does the Denon have vs the Outlaw? One of the issues I had with the 990 was fact that it only had 2 digital coax ins.
The Denon has the same, just 2 digital coax inputs.

I use the 2 dig coax inputs for my DVD player, and Motorola HDTV cable box.
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Current Setup:
Samsung HL61A750 LED DLP RPTV
Marantz SR5004 AVR / Outlaw 7075 Amp
L/C/R: Ascend Acoustics 340M/C/M
L&R Surrounds: Ascend Acoustics CBM 170
SVS 25-31PC
Panasonic BD55K Blu-Ray Player
Dishnetwork VIP722 HD/PVR.

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#66684 - 11/08/07 09:41 PM Re: 990 vs Denon 3803 features
Lee Bailey Offline
Gunslinger

Registered: 06/22/01
Posts: 86
Loc: Madera,CA.USA
Quote:
Originally posted by BloggingITGuy:
I also see you have the Ascend 340s. Do you have the first version or the newer SEs?

What do you think of them?

I've looked at them as one of the speakers I want to audition as a replacement of my Kenwood LCRs.

Also looked at the AV123 X-CS, the upcoming Outlaw LCR, and the Atlantic Technologies 6200e.

Whatever I use, all 3 fronts will be same and used in vertical D'Appolito array position.
I have the first version, and I really like their sound. If you're going to try these with them all vertical, then don't order the center channel version of the 340. It contains a different crossover to compensate for being mounted over a screen. On the older 340, the tweeter is also turned 90 degrees.

Ascend Audio also now makes another speaker, which is supposed to sound even better. The Sierra.
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Current Setup:
Samsung HL61A750 LED DLP RPTV
Marantz SR5004 AVR / Outlaw 7075 Amp
L/C/R: Ascend Acoustics 340M/C/M
L&R Surrounds: Ascend Acoustics CBM 170
SVS 25-31PC
Panasonic BD55K Blu-Ray Player
Dishnetwork VIP722 HD/PVR.

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#66685 - 11/08/07 09:50 PM Re: 990 vs Denon 3803 features
BloggingITGuy Offline
Desperado

Registered: 02/20/06
Posts: 446
Loc: Beaverton, Oregon
Yeah, but I'm totally stuck on "D" arrays. I'm mainly a home theater guy, so it has to be good for that first and musicality is secondary.

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#66686 - 11/10/07 01:13 PM Re: 990 vs Denon 3803 features
KOYAAN Offline
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Registered: 09/04/05
Posts: 358
Loc: Sanford NC
One feature that the Denons have that I've missed since going to a 990/770 is the ability to use A, B or A&B side surrounds. I always liked using a set of direct reflecting surrounds to the rear of the room for mucic, particularly classical where the surround is primarily rear wall reflection. I have an old Rat Shack speaker selector around someplace that would let me duplicate this feature with the 990 but I've never bothered to set it up, so obviously not having this feature isn't a big deal.
Another neat feature is the ability to select digital, analog, or 5/7.1 direct input without changing video sources. This gave a lot more versitility in hook-up. My biggest concern with the 990 has always been the number of inputs, particularly video inputs, and having to use 2 to hook up a single DVD player ( one for digital inputs, one for 5.1 direct for DVD-As and SACDs)just aggravates the situation.
The 990/770 is far superior to the Denon sonically, but the Denon showed a lot of thouhgt in it's feature set and certainly has a more useful remote.
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HT:
990/770
Oppo BD83SE
Pioneer Elite DV-47A
Magnavox HDMR513h DVR/DVD-R
Sony DVD megachangers-2
Sony CD megachangers-2
Monster power centers-2
Sony 48" rear projection SDTV
Roku video player
JVC AL-A158 Turntable
Polk RT-2000s,CS-650,XS-650s,RT80s
LFM-1EX
Hsu VTF-1
12" Velodyne

Family room:
OPPO 970
Sony 32" direct view HDTV
Denon 3801
Rolk RMs

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